Tyson Fury Rocky Redemption Propaganda Destroyed All Objectivity Surrounding This Fight

You're far and away the worst poster on this forum. It's not even worth mentioning what is wrong with your opening post because it's obvious to anyone with half a brain. If you can't see how mental health issues and substance abuse go hand in hand, I don't know what to tell you.

 

Considering he got up, fought on and was pressing the action by the end of the round, I suggest your point is completely invalidated by reality. Point. Post....

 

That seems a longer time than usual, I agree. But is there a rule regarding how long a ref takes from accepting the count has been beaten and calling the fight on again? Perhaps there should be, otherwise it's down to the ref's discretion ...

 

Now do Ortiz for the first knockdown in round 10 v Wilder....

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Seems like standard practice after a heavy knockdown.

 

Which rule are you referring to regarding how long a ref takes between finishing the count and calling 'box on'? To establish incompetence we need to know which protocol he broke. Seems to me it's down to the ref's discretion, so your point is mute, despite the fact he seemingly took longer than the norm. Like when Wilder was seen by the doctor just before the round after he was hurt by Ortiz, giving him a vital few extra seconds to recover while being examined. No rule broken, just the ref's discretion.

You win some, you lose some...

 

No rule that I'm aware.

Referees are trusted to look after the fighter's best interests. In this case, Reiss took an extra step in having Fury walk to a corner and back instead of the traditional couple of steps towards him. If a referee feels he needs a couple of extra seconds to make a critical decision, that leeway is granted, but it doesn't raise his actions beyond question.

 

Indeed, after not even being knocked down and then having a 60 second break, Wilder was then given a further 20 seconds at the start of the next round.

 

Video won't load for me, but walking to a corner and back isn't standard over here. Taking a couple of steps towards the ref is.

Reiss, as you pointed out, seems to be very cautious post knock downs. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I think many refs would have stopped the fight at that point or let it continue much quicker. Again, had a US based fighter been on the mat in the UK, that fight is over.

 

No. My argument is that his mental health issues explain his descent into drugs and overeating. It could also explain him being lax with what he ate. Basically didn't give a ****. It hasn't been proven what he took so you speculating that he took steroids is just guesswork. You've no evidence to suggest that he deliberately took roids and there were people prepared to testify that he did indeed purchase a boar from them and also scientists testifying that eating such meat could materially affect steroid levels in the body. That's why the case was dropped because the agency knew it couldn't win in court and would go bankrupt. Regardless, you can state your case about the Wilder fight without resorting to mocking his mental issues.

 

One thing that I find somewhat impressive about you is how thick skinned and utterly tenacious you are. Here you are, arguing the toss against 90-95% of opinion about the result of the fight.

The absolute vast majority of boxing pundits, analysts, trainers, promoters, commentators, fans and fellow fighters feel that Fury deserved the result and yet, here you are spouting the same old fanboy BS about that gimp mask wearing clown of a boxer, Deonkey ****ing Wilder, totally convinced that your argument holds sway over all the experts who declared Fury the winner.......impressive....most impressive

 

What rounds did you give to wilder then? Bit of a bizarre post tbh, focusing more on your annoyance of how people bought into furys backstory than the actual fight itself, and littered with off the wall assumptions (such as "everyone was calling for wilder to be waved off when wilder was stunned against ortiz" who's everyone?!? I've literally never heard anyone say that about that fight. Or trying to make something about Jack Reiss going to speak to fury before the fight, that's what referees do they speak to the fighters to let them know how they will referee the bout he will have went and said the same things to wilder, as a boxing fan you must know this, yet here you are trying to make that sound untruthfully more sinister than it is, again bizarre. Watch the fight again and score it round by round and tell us that wilder won.