Did Fury knockdown remind you of Jacobs Pirog?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury got hit with a massive right left combo. Was flat on his back, appeared to be out then rose for the 10 count. And finished the fight.

    Pirog hit Jacobs with a massive overhand right. He was flat on his back. The ref didnt give him a 10 count. He waved it off. Jscobs was out, but came to his senses before the 10 count. And would have likely beaten the count. He was visibly upset with the ref as he should have been.

    I support ref TKO stoppages when a guy is taking shot after shot and is wobbling all over the ring. Enough is enough.

    Like I supported the Gassiev Dorticos stoppage. He was taking too much.

    But if a shot just comes out of nowhere to floor somebody he deserves a 10 count.

    The 10 count matters. Too many refs try and bypass the 10 count.
     
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  2. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Very similar, except Jack Reiss gave Fury his full count, while Robert Byrd gave Jacobs a portion of a count, then waved it off, and forcibly restrained Jacobs from getting back up, after he immediately lifted his head to complain. Almost as if Byrd was trying to cover up his **** up. Jacobs was not out cold, just as fury was not out cold.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jacobs was denied the opportunity to beat the count. It's such Bull****.

    The 10 count matters!!!

    Byrd was like oh **** I really screwed the pooch on this one. Realized that he screwed Jacobs out of a title shot. Then held him down to cover up his mistake.
     
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  4. The Long Count

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    It’s a good example. I think the context may have helped Fury, Fury was clearly winning the fight and it was the final round. Fury’s eyes looked clear and his breathing was fine. Ref did right thing.
    Jacobs reacted a half second too late. After the ref decided it was over, the kd came much earlier in the fight and in a bout that was competitive Jacobs was getting tagged.
    Tough call for Jacobs but when it happened I had no issue with the ref’s decision.
     
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  5. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a good comparison.

    Jacobs looked like a chalk outline when he got knocked down and unlike Fury, who was competitive with Wilder Jacobs was getting easily schooled by Pirog. Also, after Jacobs got knocked down and when Byrd stood over him and was counting Jacobs was completely motionless and had his eyes closed and at the count of 5 didn't even make an attempt to get up until Byrd called it off. Byrd did Jacobs a favor, since I don't think Jacobs would've made it to his feet unassisted anyway and you can't lay motionless on the ring canvas for a 4-5 count with your eyes close and expect the ref to let you continue. Fury on the other hand was looking right at Reiss at the count of 4 and moved his head at the count of 5 to show Reiss a sign of life and got up at the count of 6 unassisted. It also helped that Fury took his knockdown in the 12th round.
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's wrong with giving a fighter a 10 second count.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ok but is it fair to treat a 10 count like a 5 count? The rules say you have 10 seconds to rise to your feet. Haven't moved after a 5 count well there are 5 more numbers to go.

    I'm not saying you can never wave off a fight. Gassiev Shimmell is a good example of the guy is done. Time to bring in the doc.

    But the rules specifically say 10 count not 5 count.
     
  8. The Long Count

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    It’s ref’s discretion. Seconds count if a fighters life is on the line. I think these refs are experienced enough to make the call - sometimes they overly err on the side of caution - Richard Steele comes to mind - Tyson Ruddock 1 - was a terrible stoppage. But the fighters put their life in their hands I have no issue with the Jacobs stoppage. He looked dead. Had he moved a second earlier he would of been allowed to try and continue.
     
  9. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    boxing is rigged and always has been. shocking news. so is every other pro sport on Earth, get used to it.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    For sure.

    Pirog was the slickest fighter on the planet in 2010

    The Gypsy King is the slickest fighter on the planet in 2018

    Pirog moseyed on over to the US Eastwood style circa 64-66 and paddled the ass of the heavily hyped ''America's next big thing'' Jacobs in front of his home fans.

    Fury moseyed on over to the US Eastwood style circa 64-66 and paddled the ass of America's best HW in decades in front of his home fans, only difference being the judges robbed Fury of his rightful win and the greatest comeback in sporting history.

    That said, those SOB judges for the Pirog vs Jacobs fight were fixing to rob Pirog on the cards as well (they all had him up by 3 rounds to 1).

    As I said at the time, Golden Boy and co paid Pirog a bag of peanuts but the monkey they'd been expecting didn't show up and the look on B-Hop's and Richard Shaefer's faces when Pirog detonated that Russian Bear Nuclear Holocaust Slick Bomb on Jacobs' mandible and dropped him like a sack of potatoes was absolutely priceless.