Records in Heavyweight Boxing Champs

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    A thread out of boredom and possible future use. BTW this is only counting UNIFIED heavyweight champions, because I can't be bothered to keep track of every ABC belt cheese champ.


    Physical Stats:
    Tallest: Jess Willard (6'7")
    Shortest: Tommy Burns (5'7")

    Longest Reach: Primo Carnera (85")
    Shortest Reach: Rocky Marciano (68", sometimes cited as 67")

    Highest Weight During Title Reign: Primo Carnera (270lbs)
    Lowest Weight During Title Reign: Bob Fitzsimmons (167lbs)


    Age:
    Youngest Ownership of Unification: Floyd Patterson (21 y/o)
    Oldest Ownership of Unification: Jersey Joe Walcott (38 y/o)


    KO Related:
    Highest KO Percentage: Rocky Marciano (88%)
    Lowest KO Percentage: James J Corbett & Jack Sharkey (25%)

    Most 1st Round Knockouts: Mike Tyson (22)
    Least 1st Round Knockouts: James J Corbett (None)

    Fastest Average KO Round: John L Sullivan (Round 2.55)
    Slowest Average KO Round: James J Corbett (Round 12)


    Reign Related:
    Longest Unified Title Reign: Joe Louis (11 years and 9 months)
    Shortest Unified Title Reign: Riddick Bowe (1 month)

    Most Unified Title Defenses: Joe Louis (26, famously misattributed as 25)
    Least Unified Title Defenses: Jack Sharkey, Max Baer, James J Braddock, Ingemar Johannson, Leon Spinks, Buster Douglas, Riddick Bowe, & Lennox Lewis (All have 0 defenses)


    Misc:
    Best W/L Ratio During Reign: Rocky Marciano (100%)
    Worst W/L Ratio During Title Reign: James J Braddock (67%)

    Most Other Unified Champions Beaten: Joe Louis (6)
    Least Other Unified Champions Beaten: John L Sullivan (0 by technicality)

    Longest Gap Between Title Defense: Jack Dempsey (3 years 9 days)
    Shortest Gap Between Title Defense: Tommy Burns (10 days)
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Tyson Fury would be the tallest now, and tied for longest reach.
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    What are the biggest height and weight differences?
    Jess Willard Vs Jack Johnson 6"?
    Primo Carnera Vs Tommy Loughran 84Ibs?

    I don't get how Lennox didn't have any unified title defences, he clearly had 4 successful ones of the unified WBA, WBC, IBF and lineal titles
     
  4. mcvey

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    Willard was 6'6.25"
    Tyson was the youngest champ at 20 Unification?
    Louis' fight with Johnny Davis was only recognized in 1 state.
     
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  5. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Biggest height difference: Carnera vs Uzcudun 7½". Louis vs Musto 6½"
     
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  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Yeah for lineal but not unified

    Biggest weight difference in a title fight? Or only when the title exchanged hands? The ladder is probably 261lbs Carnera beating 202lbs Jack Sharkey

    Lewis was striped of an abc belt for some bull**** that'd take forever to explain.

    That'd still make Willard the tallest, though many sources claim that he's 6'7" or 6'6 1/2"

    Tyson didn't unify at 20

    Cool but it was still recognised and official. Louis had to knock him out because they told him it was official. If he lost, the title would be taken, so it's a title fight in my eyes.

    Don't forget Tyson vs Lewis, 7"

    Burns vs Johnson was 5 1/2" inches,
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not quite sure what the OP means by "unified". Does it mean that a boxer holds ALL the major titles (like "the big 4") - or that he has unified at least two of these. If the latter is the case, there are a few more 7" title fight we can mention along with Lewis vs Tyson... such as Lewis vs Tua, Tyson vs Briggs and Tyson vs Tucker.
     
  8. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis v Davis was a four round exhibition. A bureaucrat at the NYSAC declared there were no exhibitions in New York and called it a title fight, but no one else associated with the fight regarded it as such. Like how Dempsey's exhibition with Jimmy Darcy keeps turning up in his official record on Boxrec.
     
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undisputed_boxing_champions

    ^read
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These stats are a mess.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What he means is none of these are actually accurate, he just wanted to post something he found but doesn't want to take two minutes to see if they are right or not.
     
  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Howso?
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do you mean how so?

    What is your criteria for being an 'undisputed' champion? There have always been multiple organizations throughout the sport's history that recognized champions. Do you acknowledge NYSAC recognition? RING recognition? Boxing Illustrated recognition? WBA recognition (if so which ones)? NBA recognition? BBB of C recognition? The Police Gazette recognition? IBO recognition? WAA recognition? WBO recognition? Lineal recognition? The 'Colored' Heavyweight Championship? WBC recognition? IBF recognition? You never say.

    Why was Patterson the youngest champ? Who recognized him? You've included guys like Bowe and Lewis and Tyson. None of them possessed ALL the belts of their eras. Why do you think Walcott was the oldest heavyweight champion? Who recognized him? I think can name FOUR in just the last 20+ years who were older. Why don't they count?

    What belts do they lack that Walcott possessed?

    When people can simply point to your "stats" and say I've seen something different, and you say "I don't have time to bother with that," then that's not good enough.

    Your stats are a mess.
     
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  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    Since you can't read comments, this was my criteria

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undisputed_boxing_champions
     
  15. Dubblechin

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