Why couldn't Wilder finish Fury..

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  1. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    After that KD in the 12th? There was 2 minutes... In fact Fury outboxed him for the rest if it, with his hands behind his back at one point too ha ha ha... A KD like that, Fury should have been there for the taking after that!

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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder gassed out. Wilder needs to work on his conditioning and work on being more efficient, since he wasted a lot of energy throughout the fight. Despite the knockdown Fury still had more energy than Wilder, since he was a lot more efficient with his energy than Wilder was in the earlier rounds.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    In truth, Wilder lost a lot of confidence right that moment Fury got up.
    Wilder hit him with his best right-left combination, and the one thing Wilder has always had confidence in is his power ! That two-punch is supposed to put 'em to sleep for 5 minutes.
     
  4. gmurphy

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    Ya i can imagine at this point wilder must have thought he was facing the terminator
     
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  5. Jacob Hall

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    fury knows boxing and i was thinking the same when he got up when the guy who knocked you down is going for the kill you have to land something to discourage him which will tell him '' im still here''
     
  6. 81ZAR

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    You could see it in his face after Fury rose from the canvas lol
     
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  7. gmurphy

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    May affect him seriously in the rematch too. His whole gameplay was land something big, he did and fury got up and fought better lol.
    He nay now think how do i beat this guy
     
  8. PaddyGarcia

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    Fury is defensively really, really good.
     
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  9. destruction

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    Fury is very good defensively and was then able to clatter Wilder with a big punch which caused Wilder himself to hold.

    Wilder admits he thought the fight was already won and had switched off.

    Finally Fury's head had cleared completely when he got up which is really suprising, as a lot of posters here say he has an average chin.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Yeah. It could have a negative or positive effect on him in a rematch. Negative most likely.
     
  11. mthez

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    No Wilder is awful at putting his shots together. It was always going to be an easy night for Fury. AJ will finish off Fury. But to answer OP Wilder was gassed out.
     
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  12. underwraps

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    Wilder looked spent in the 12th. If it there was another round or 2 I think the big man would of stopper Wilder.
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    They aren't mutually exclusive ideas. I don't think AJ will floor or hurt Fury the way Wilder did. His arsenal is more varied but he doesn't have the same power, tends to gas when he's made to work and doesn't cover distance across the ring as quickly as Wilder (even if it is a little unpolished in its refinements)
     
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  14. Liquorice

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    I think Fury wins AGAIN in a rematch. I can't see Wilder suddenly altering his entire style & game in the space of one fight & Fury will be aware of whats to come this time plus he'll be one fight further back into his comeback (shake off all the rust) & seems to have a decent & capable team around him too in terms of his trainer etc Wilder still dangerous? Always but he was totally out manoeuvred & out-boxed.. You gotta favor Fury. I'd be cautious about making it in the states again though & when it comes to WBC fighters you can never be too sure of a UD but hey ho
     
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  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just to show a comparison between Fury and Wilder's training habits and diets.

    Fury discussing training for Haye.

    “The first work I’ll do is some long running – long, slow five- or six-mile runs, four or five times a week – and some pad work. That goes on for about four or five weeks. For this fight, we did that in the south of France, which was really enjoyable, training on the beach and in the sun. Your diet starts to change again – you start to get back into your routine diet. When I’m first in camp, I usually drink a shake for breakfast, then a lot of protein shakes throughout the day. And chicken and rice, meat and rice, vegetables, fruit. Not 100 per cent though, yet. You can still eat some unhealthy things as well.”

    CRANKING IT UP

    "After five weeks, we introduce sparring and technique work, plus some heavy bag work and weights. We don’t run any more. We introduce cross-trainer, bicycle and rowing machines, rather than smashing your legs as you get close to a fight. You take for granted the things you’re allowed to eat when you’re not training. Just the small things, like some sauce on your food – on pasta or meat. It’s just eating it dry. You take milk and cheese for granted – I don’t eat any dairy products."
    https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/sport/tyson-fury/73564

    Wilder discussing training for Molina

    That’s old school; I stay away from road running,” he said, “because it tears up your knees over time.

    Instead, Wilder regaled me with his enthusiasm for a regime that is — literally — all wet.

    “I love the water because it builds all your muscles in your body,” Wilder said. “After I get finished with a water workout . . . I can’t even tell you the name of the muscles, that’s for sure, but I feel it.”

    When we get in the water, we do a lot of stuff that keeps him long and flexible,” Khoury said, “with shoulder and joint mobility, which allows him to be able to snap a punch.”

    Although Wilder does his share of standard weight training, he said, “too much shoulder development, too much strength and size, what’s happening is, you’re pushing the punches, as opposed to snapping your punches.”


    Wilder offered another benefit of getting into the pool. “When you’re sore from all the weights and running, when you’re feeling any kind of fatigue, it takes all that soreness out of your body, as well, so you’ll be ready for the next session.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...2792f854297_story.html?utm_term=.d5f885231dce


    Wilder's ex Chef discussing Wilder's diet going into the Molina fight.

    McClain was the chef Bragg recommended, and after an initial meeting, the newly assembled team developed a meal and supplement plan that has Wilder growing bigger and punching harder than ever before.

    The easy part was that Wilder was already in shape, even though his diet consisted of lots of pizza and even a Whooper every now and again. Before his first title defense last year, he conducted an interview with Sports Illustrated at a Waffle House.
    https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news...a-true-heavyweight-with-additions-to-his-team