How should Wilder`s defensive skills be rated out of 10?

It depends on who hes fighting so its a trick question

If hes fighting a shorter guy under 6'5 he isn't that easy to get to, the Ortiz fight shows you that. Not because hes skilled but he does jump back and at angles very quickly.

A taller guy shows hes not that hard to hit if you have reach. The Washington fight was the first to show this vs a CURRENT Wilder and people were shocked ( well those who don't study footage ) that he was easily controlled by the simple jab. Fury completely showed it being taller and longer then wilder.

Against Short guy he has about a 7 defense.

Against taller guys its about 3 only because he does have fast reflex's .( again that's not really skill) His defense is made up of feints and offense of making the opponent not throw much punches which is why a skilled aggressor and counter puncher is going to have a field day with him and his name is Joshua.

 

Agreed, he relies on his height and reach a great deal, he's going to find it very hard vs Joshua because how Joshua disguises his shots, his size and his variety. The big flaw with Wilder's, reactive defence is it can make you liable to be led into traps, like Joshua did vs Povetkin. Joshua will use his jab and feints and create an opening and then KO him brutally.

 

For someone like wilder his offence is his best form Of defence

 

I agree. Not the first nor the last to use offense as a means to defend, deduce or negate the opposition's attack. A boxing lesson coming by way of 25% connect rate with landing in double digits in only 2 rounds. I think I counted at least 3 rounds where I thought Fury landed more than 10 punches.


I've seen quite a few fights where I disagreed with punchstats, but this one was rather spot on. I see Wilder's **** poor connect rate based on his lack of boxing ability. But not sure how Fury's connect rate doesn't call into question how gr8 was he to have missed as often as he did.

For fear of the right? I agree.

 

He doesn't have any real understanding of ring control, and as result of that all else suffers. Everything he does seems done on the fly, pump the jab out here, leap back there, sway his upper body a bit because it looks cool in the heat of the moment. When he's fighting shoddy opponents who are cowed by his power and physical presence he can afford to get away with such nonsense, but when he's fighting world-class opposition it quickly becomes apparent how clueless he is.

Against Fury he found he couldn't just lean out of the way of Fury's long arms so he had to resort to a sloppy high guard that let through as much of Fury's punches as it blocked. His fast, twitchy movement meant he was able to avoid a decent proportion of Fury's shots, or at least ride with them a little, but it came at the expense of not being able to fire back effectively, which made him a sitting duck for huge portions of the fight. His poor jab and atrocious footwork meant he couldn't control Fury's range and had to resort to reacting to everything Fury did in an attempt to counter him, which Fury capitalised on by feinting the crap out of him and opening him up to counters of his own.

To a certain degree one's defence is tied into one's offence, and Wilder's aggression and unorthodox attacking style meant that he was able to keep Fury from totally dominating him, but it was wasted energy that sapped him hard in the later rounds and only netted him rounds when Fury got sloppy enough to get caught by him. It was not a winning gameplan but a survival tactic, and it won't work in the sequel.

3 or 4 out of 10.

 

I think Fury clearly won the fight, but I have to say the rematch is set up well. Wilder knows that any decent shot spuds Fury. That kind of power really is an equalizer - it really does help to know you can turn the fight with one punch, and that you have that punch. The rematch can't be any different really, as people have said Wilder is not going to suddenly outbox Fury. So again the question will be can Fury evade the freak-power for 36 minutes straight.

 

Joshua hits harder than Ortiz, its not just power its the precision of AJ's punches which are followed through with an array of body and head shots, straight lefts right hooks an uppercut and he never repeats the same combo. Best evidence to prove the difference is to look at the Molina fights against Wilder and Joshua. Ortiz is kinda suspect imo. His Kaufman fight was horrid took Ortiz to much and too long to finally nail it, Oritz lacks tempo and depth to his fights and to his fighting spirit .

 

I won't argue about Ortiz' overall skill, surely he IS a hard puncher.

 

I agree. Ortiz might be a touch more heavy handed, but he's a clubbing, almost slapping, type of puncher, a little like a more refined Sam Peter. He lacks the savage precision of Joshua's shots or the sheer explosive energy, and now that he's getting on in age his raw power looks to be fading as well.

 

He landed the cleaner more effective punches against alleged boxing master Fury, was never hurt, but knocked Fury down twice. He blocked and slipped Fury all night. So better than Fury’s by any objective measure.

 

Wouldn't say he blocked and slipped Fury all night, but Fury should have imposed his weight advantage on Wilder more and grappeld and leaned on him to exhaust and nullify him.

 

Pretty poor, funnily enough its his chin and heart that are his best defensive assets...

Man Nichols and Sconiers can punch...

 

Wut?? You watch the whole fight or just some Wilder fanboi club highlight package with the 35 second count at the end??

If you consider using your face as a blocking technique then you are indeed correct..

 

Wilder doesn't need defense