Eddie Hearn Steroids PEDs interview

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huge difference. Lance Armstrong was busted unofficially. Journalists wrote stories and were sued by Armstrong but they only wrote them as they clearly had sources. His own PA outed him as well.

    Now are we led to believe that if someone knew AJ was juicing and a media outlet had a story they wouldn't run it?

    Now if one wants to have the viewpoint that every athlete is juicing then go ahead. What does not make sense is to pick and choose who you believe is juicing just by looking at them. Tyson Fury has never looked like a juicer but he got busted.

    There is is no more chance that AJ is juicing over any other fighter.
     
  2. ryuken87

    ryuken87 Active Member Full Member

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    If Hearn was that principled he would not be hyping up the Canelo/Rocky fight. Not that I blame Rocky for taking that kind of money. The fact is for any promoter (or fighter) that money comes first and ethics a distant second.
     
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  3. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Spinal! Full Member

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    No idea why hearn gets so much ****. Yeah he's slimy, he's a promoter - it's part of the job. He seems to make his fighters money, he seems to get them into good positions for title shots - as a boxer what more could you want?

    If Hearn had managed Mike Tyson then Tyson would have a lot more money than he currently has.

    Anyway back to the point - if someone has never failed a test you have to give them the benefit of the doubt.
     
  4. BigStiffIdiot

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    Pretty flawed argument. After Bolt, 5 of the 6 world records all got caught for doping. Canelo, biggest name in the sport at present got caught. Fury was the best heavyweight in the world when he got caught. Roy Jones, Holyfield, V Klitschko and the great Marius Wach all got caught.
     
  5. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    None of the champions in dashing is such a star as ussain bolt, vk got busted in 1998 i think, way before the klitschko became big superstars. At the time fury got busted he was far from beeing a media star, he had giving up boxing and was pissing a lot of people of with the things he said. As far as roy jones nd holyfield, their where busted far after their prime. Canelo is the only realistic argument here
     
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  6. Red Hulk40

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    Why the **** are you talking about child abuse what is going on in your head ?
    Listen i have been bodybuilding and lifting weights since 1985 , i know about anabolic steroids and i could write book on the subject, i know when someone is using PEDs but there are idiots our there who actually believe they are clean, listen if you are top of your game and your making millions you are gonna use PEDs
    Just look at other Athletes like Usain Bolt he was using PEDs and so was the other Olympic Athletes it's not just boxers , Sport is corrupt and it's a business, do you really believe Joshua got that size drinking protein shakes and eating chicken ?
    Please don't use the word Nonce when you are having a debate with someone it just makes you sound thick !
    I suggest you do your homework when it comes to Anabolic Steroids do some research and you will instantly change your opinion on AJ oh is that short for Anabolic Juicing ?
     
  7. N17

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    Maybe my point was extreme but it's still a valid point in my opinion, people can't just hide behind freedom of speech as an excuse to stain, insinuate and slaughter somebody without a shred of evidence, it disgusts me.

    And you are going down the "guilty before innocent" line.

    All AJ can do is pass tests, which to this point he has done, so therefore in my opinion you can't just say "Lance Armstrong" and "Others do it" and then use that as a reason to assassinate somebody's good standing and character.
     
  8. DonTyson

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    Of course AJ juices as do 80% of athletes. Luckily for him he’s a media darling and these are the protected ones.
     
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    Just don't get caught.
     
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    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    I often have the impression that people who defend guys like joshua are not doing to much sport themself and therefore have a flawed opinion on certain things. Not that i want to offend you but everybody with a brain and 2 year traning experience knows that you can never look like wlad or aj by nature and still have the cardio to go 12 rounds of one of the hardest stamina draining sports. Black or slavic genetics dont help you there
     
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    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    "Clean" athletes aren't beating juiced athletes all other things equal. To think athletes are competing and excelling at the highest level but not using PED's is so naive that it's hard for me to take you seriously. It's not an "accusation", it's common sense...people who support their families via athletic achievement have a responsibility to do all they can to get the most out of it. I don't blame them, but I also don't pretend it doesn't exist.
     
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  12. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Twatumvirate will make the Oxford English in 2019....
     
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  13. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People can say what they want about Joshua, but for all we know it could be genetics. Look at Tyson at the age of 13. Some people just have muscle building genetics. I on the other hand have fat building genetics LOL
     
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    But Joshua was a gym rat when he was a kid. Won the Olympics then suddenly gained another solid 20lbs of muscle. Jaw got larger, neck got larger, his whole body got larger. It doesn’t work like that when it’s just down to genetics.

    Take Dubois for example. If he suddenly was to gain 20lbs of solid lean mass, it would be a clear indicator of drug use.
     
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  15. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could tell Joshua had good muscle building genetics, even in the amateus. He's got great muscle bellies for bodybuilding. I don't see what taking steroids for boxing would actually do. Being Muscular in boxing means nothing, actually it can work at a disadvantage as muscles need more oxygen, meaning you get tired quicker.

    Being a professional at world class level, i'm guessing his nutrition etc is more on point than what it was in the amateurs.