My view on Mikey vs Loma has changed.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well Mikey's recent performances against very subpar competition leaves a lot to be desired, Loma's recent performances against superior comp, not quite as much. So the criticism of Mikey is well deserved.
     
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  2. bandeedo

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    point taken. but i dont believ a snot nose pac was equal to a full grown loma. how many linares level fighters dropped a full grown pac?
     
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  3. ellerbe

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    1 round??! C'mon man, that's as ridiculous as me saying Linares was winning the fight like the judges saw it. I had Loma up but it was competitive. I saw Pedraza land plenty of grazing head shots. Loma's face agrees with what I saw. So do you see Loma going up to 140+ eventually? I don't. Dude would be dead meat if he did. Nothing wrong with that. Loma is a great fighter, we were just spoiled too much by Floyd and Pac to expect that kind of greatness.
     
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  4. ellerbe

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    The only bad performance he really had was against Lipinets. He shut Broner out and shut Easter out after feeling him out the first couple rounds. Easter would beat Pedraza and actually possesses power unlike Pedraza.
     
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  5. kriszhao

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    By full grown you mean Ariza grown or naturally grown... Because after the Ariza days his power seems to have left him. pac has one KO since 2010 and that was against the shell of Mathysse.
    ( and BTW I love Pac but im keeping it real him and May were juiced to the gills )
     
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Btw I wasn't saying Loma is overrated, I was saying I overrated Loma. I thought Loma would wipe the floor with Mikey pre-Linares. These 2 fights at 135 tells me a different story. Now I see it as a pick-em, a GGG/Canelo type fight.
     
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  7. mirkofilipovic

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    Pacman started getting older and was fighting naturally larger opponents, which why he wasnt knocking out people anymore. That being said Loma is a natural gift from god, Pacman and Floyd are roided up Establishment fabrications.
     
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  8. CST80

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    I was generous and gave Linares 2, barely, IB wasn't even that kind, he only gave him one. Wasn't remotely competitive.

    Pedraza's a great fighter, and he barely won a round against an off his game coming off of an injury hyper cautious Loma. Carry on being impressed by him. Was Pac deserving of scorn like this after losing to Morales and should have to Marquez?
     
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  9. bandeedo

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    thats a matter of opinion, i think they both look equally as good, or bad, in their respective unifications. both had disadvantages to deal with, mikey is bigger, but fought an established 135 lber. loma is smaller, but fought a guy coming up.
    now show me posts praising what an impressive win mikey over easter was, and i will show you posts praising what a great win pedraza was. i will bet money right now that i can find more posts than you... and mikey-easter happened a while ago.
     
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  10. CST80

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    Easter's power has been in mothballs since the Mendez fights, I think we can say its overrated. Easter barely beat Fortuna and Commey, and they're not very good, Pedraza could easily UD him, although probably get shafted on the cards.
    Carry on thinking he'll beat Mikey. I've seen nothing to worry me in the least.
     
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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    are we going to talk boxing or fantasy? you want to gossip, im the wrong guy.
     
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  12. ellerbe

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    Cool that you and IB agreed, but I saw the fight differently. Loma was winning on the cards, but it was nowhere near a shutout. Very competitive fight in my eyes, though like I said Loma was clearly winning.

    Pedraza is a straight bum compared to Morales and Marquez, let's be real. And, we did not expect Pac to go up to 140-147 after those losses for sure. But size was not a factor in those fights. It's clear that size played a role in the Pedraza and Linares fights. What do you think is Loma's weight limit? Oh, and I don't think Loma deserves **** for looking mediocre against Tank's son, at the end of the day he got the win.
     
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  13. ellerbe

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    I don't know man, it's a close fight to me. If they were the same size I'd pick Loma. But size matters, c'mon man, you know boxing. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if Loma pulled it off at all, but imo after these 2 fights it's not logical to think Loma just pulls off a nomaschenko on him.
     
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  14. kriszhao

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    By full grown you mean Ariza grown or naturally grown... Because after the Ariza days his power seems to have left him. pac has one KO since 2010 and that was against the shell of Mathysse.
    ( and BTW I love Pac but im keeping it real him and May were juiced to the gills )
    well the question is where do you consider pac to be " full grown "
     
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  15. ellerbe

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    hahaha the former "pacstans" turned on him to defend loma.
     
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