Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

I think Ali probably hits as hard as fury, at elite level fury doesn’t put anyone away, as far as resting if we are talking prime for prime , Ali wouldn’t need to clinch over 12 as his stamina over 15 rounds in prime was probably as good as any heavyweight has been, so 12 rounds a breeze, especially at age 27-28 (Real prime no inactivity) Ali jab if not as powerful as a Klitshcko is much faster and accurate and as a twist to cut flesh, alis jab has enough power and accumulation to keep Joshua honest. Apparently Ali was very strong in clinches and would work on that with any fighter including if fought a Joshua. If Joshua can hit Ali flush he could knock him out but I just can’t see it, the fact you believe one of the greatest ATG heavyweights of all time doing back flips and anything else and still can’t win just shows its you that is delusional and not much point putting points forward.

 

The only fact here is you think ATG is a skill!

At the end of the day you can convince yourself and maybe the guy next to you at the bar that Ali was head and shoulders above Joshua, but I'm not the guy at the bar who you can randomly convince.

like always everyone and I mean everyone will look back 20 years from now and say that Galvatron guy knew what he was ttalking about just like I did with boring overrated Lennox Lewis ( of course what was the public opinion THEN ) !

I'm once again leaving this nonsensical thread of debating something that's easy to debunk and rehashing the same old same old...MAYBE if someone actually puts forth a logical point I'll come back other then 15 rounds as if Ali wouldn't get tired getting punched around by the 240 plus AJ ? Lol

 

240 lbs missing, getting tired merry Xmas galvatron

 

You're in the vast minority. End of

 

Hey boys.
Ask Galvatron about Wilder and Gravity.

 

I thought this so I had a look at the tale of the tape.
Foreman was 220 pounds (Ali was 212). Both were same height (6'3) and Ali had a slight reach advantage (80 v 78.5).
So Joshua is much taller at 6'6, much much heavier by 40lbs. From the Parker fight he was stated as having an 82inch reach, so at least 2 inch advantage. Does he hit as hard or harder than Foreman?? Don't really know, but surely in the same ballpark.
I don't think AJ would go for it like Foreman did.
So it's a really tough call. Ali had the speed and skills to hit, move and pepper AJ from the outside. Particularly as AJ's reach advantage is not huge and Ali's speed could counter this. Even bust his face up some. But the task would be bigger than the Foreman challenge.
It's a tough call.

 

I’m afraid Ali was 216-217 for foreman fight but we are talking prime for prime so I don’t see that fight as a barometer unless you take Ali’s IQ, guile, and punch resistance and will to win from that fight, as with most fantasy matchup s you normally go prime for prime, and as stated in an earlier post Ali adjusted his weight to suit his opponents ie a smaller and lighter fighter Ali came in lighter or his optimum weight for the opponent , eg 3 years earlier in 1971 ALi came in against Frazier at 215 then 226 for Mathis and back down to 220 for Juergen blin in the same year, Alis last fight in 1967 before the 3 yrs off was for folley and Ali weighed 212lbs so looking at the weight range between 67-71 his weight varied between 212-226 up and down so a (REAL PRIME ) Ali would probably have looked at a 240lbs Joshua his optimum weight (ie Joshua ) because over that he (Joshua) isn’t optimum and ALi would come in around 220lbs except with no lay off or inactivity and his youth age 27-28 around 1968-69 he would have carried that extra 9lbs at similar speeds to pre exile Ali before his legs regressed that means there is barley a stone and a half between them so that’s why I think Ali would win, too much speed and not that much weight difference, but this is heavyweight boxing if Joshua catches him flush then anything can happen but I personally can’t see it given the real dimensions.

 

Agree with much of this, hence I said it was a tough call (and tough challenge). I can certainly wee how Ali could win (and I'm a massive Ali fan).

 

everyone will always say this yuh? in 20 years.

ok. clocks ticking. good luck.

 

Cool

 

His statement relies on Ali coming back from the dead in good enough shape to fight AJ, he'll need all the luck he can get for that to come true.

 

Ali wins this. 41 year old Wlad was giving Joshua problems with his movement. Ali with his legs, endurance, chin and toughness wins a UD

 

Vast majority ? Like the clown on here telling me the vast majority of EXPERTS are picking Wilder to win over Fury. Like pointing out to me all the EXPERTS on the Showtime panel From Cooney to Bowe out rank my opinion bc they're EXPERTS ? Lol


Counting punches is to difficult for the average boxing fan the hard fact for you is it's a fact that Klitschko was never ahead in the Joshua fight because when you COUNT the numbers don't lie !

You are probably the majority who also think Chisora beat Whyte when someone just posted an exact punch count video, the VAST majority was wrong there too......

 

So you think that making logical predictions before the fight, is tantamount to assessing a fight as it's happening? idiotic

think you're getting confused with fact and opinion again.

All you have to do is search online to see you're in the minority. But i suppose we should all bow down to the sagacious expert that is Galvatron, because you are, of course, infallible.

And you've just contradicted yourself with that Chisora/Whyte comment....i'll let you work out how as you're such a genius

 

you're the clown using vast major as if it makes it a fact, what a clown you are , go put on your white make up and red nose from now on when you post bc your officially in that category !

The VAST majority thought Chisora won there's a poll that PROVES this , yet there's a REAL video that shows exact punch counts of every punch landed that disproves that so where did I contradict myself ?

The VAST majority also thinks very different to in this thread poll, that doesn't mean they know more either does it ? Lol