Why didn't Mike Tyson and George Foreman ever fight?

I don't wanna waste my time to your full stupidity but you looks total idiota when you try to suggest 38 vs 42 years isn't a very big difference. But this is an incredible big difference because the years ruins the muscle quality dramatically considering
this the 38 years old Holmes was far better athlete than the 42 years old version.

Otherwise only the inactivity proves nothing best example Vitali Klitschko.

 

They were good but he could be hit and hit clean at times. Tucker hit him in the first round and rocked him. Bonecrusher hit him in the 12 right near the final bell-like seconds. Douglas.. when he got a little lazy. Bruno nailed him with a left hook. The style of Mike was great and energetic, but George was so strong and George had in my mind more heart to get up from a knockdown and fight on. More later than earlier, but that Lyle fight showed something in him which Mike never really showed.. I think Mike was a greater fighter to be honest, but stylistically this fight is terrible for Mike. A guy who is physically stronger who does not let Mike come forward with momentum and nails him backing him up.

 

Do you think Tyson avoided Foreman?

 

Let me get this straight.

The Holmes who was coming off a 1 year layoff and a loss was a better athlete than the one who schooled a prime, undefeated power puncher?

 

Four years older, four years more ringwear and coming off a brutal KO defeat and you think Holmes was better at 42.

You said Spinks had a glass jaw. Clearly nonsense. He showed no evidence of a weak chin in any of his previous fights. Spinks KO'd Cooney several years before Foreman, who you were bigging up for KO'ing an even older Cooney.

A referee's stoppage is still a KO. Or was Foreman-Cooney not a KO either because the ref waved it off? Or Hagler-Hearns? Ruddock had already been down several times and had shipped a lot of punishment.

Have you even seen the fight? Tubbs' legs gave way immediately after eating a left hook, in a round he was fighting back in. I suppose lying on the canvas in a daze for several minutes after was part of the act too?

Nowhere does your link say Thomas was a coke head prior to the Tyson fight. Thomas wasn't on cocaine until after his loss to Holyfield.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spo...sp-pinklon-thomas-george-diaz-1224-story.html

I take it you mean Adilson Rodriguez. Do you hear that sound? It's a barrel being scraped.

That leaves two reigning heavyweight champs, a future heavyweight champ and a former heavyweight champ who had enough left in the tank to get two more title shots years later. Against #10 ranked Adilson Rodriguez. This isn't even close.

Ever read In This Corner? Boxers say all kinds of things that don't always tally with reality. So Holy says Foreman hit harder. The evidence of who they were KO'ing and how suggests otherwise.

What part of four years older don't you understand? Do you think Larry's chin and reflexes miraculously improved at age 42? Like I said Holmes was still fighting at the age of 50 and no one even came close to beating him the way Tyson did. Martirosyan is a nobody whose biggest (only?) claim to fame is being KO'd by Golovkin so that comparison doesn't work. If Wlad comes back in a few years and starts beating ranked contenders those who say he was shot when Joshua got to him won't have a leg to stand on.

So now only a ten count is a knockout? Tyson's punches forced the stoppage, the ref just jumped in to save the opponent.

Like he couldn't win that war with Ruddock? A lightning fast, accurate and skilled counter puncher with KO power in each hand is the worst possible match-up for old George. All this talk of bully psyche is just clutching at straws to make up for the huge gulf there was between young Tyson and old George.

So old George never fought someone with Tyson's speed, power and accuracy. We're agreed. I'd guess Tommy was on his bike because he'd already been KO'd by Mercer and didn't want to get sparked again. Thing is, Tommy Morrison wasn't Tyson.

Or more likely he sees George winding up a mile away and slips it or has moved by the time it reaches the target?

They were too busy backpeddling for their lives.

Tyson was also faster than them. He was accurate. He was used to hitting men who were taller with more reach. Everyone landed on George. Even itty bitty cruiser Dwight Qawi was able to land on George. Tyson will land.

Tyson would usually throw about 30-40 punches per round, so yeah he'd soon get to 100.

Something about a clubbing style and "intimidating" him? That's not breaking it down.

I'm glad you've now conceded Tyson has a small chance, from your starting point that it wouldn't even be close and Foreman would handle him like a kid. I said George could win with a Hail Mary shot like he did against Moorer but that's really his only chance here.

Splitting hairs on this is beside the point. You said slugfests favour the bigger guy. Well, Baer was heavier than Louis with a better chin, taller with 5" reach advantage, comparable power and he lost.

I don't remember Cooney landing much significant. But you already said Morrison and Stewart were on their bikes against George. Briggs too, for that matter. They weren't unloading their best shots. Holyfield did however manage to stun George a few times.

 

Tyson went the distance five times from 86-91, winning by a wide margin every time, and also had a tenth round KO. I don't know where you're getting this "Tyson lacked stamina" stuff from.

Being taller, stronger and heavier is not an advantage when you're also much slower, older, less skilled and easier to hit. They just prolong the beating.

You can't get off the floor to win if you aren't knocked down. You can't come from behind if you're in front. You can't avenge a loss if you don't lose. Basically you're giving someone extra credit for losing, being knocked down or behind in a fight, which is absurd. That's why rolling out those lines without any context is meaningless. Do you think Tyson is the only guy in the Hall of Fame you can apply them to? To say Tyson didn't have heart is ridiculous too. It takes rocks the size of Gibraltar to even set foot in a ring.

Yeah I heard Foreman say that too. It was all part of his plan to lose the first nine rounds and land a prayer in the tenth. Do you take him seriously? If Moorer doesn't forget to duck the plan doesn't work.

No you wouldn't, you'd be ragging on him for being knocked down and behind in the the first place.

70s Foreman didn't get up to win when he was knocked down by underdogs Ali and Young. He didn't have any come from behind wins. He didn't avenge his losses. He had no stamina. He was one-dimensional. He was a bully, a front runner and everyone he beat was scared of him. See we can all play that game.

Here's where your lack of objectivity regarding Tyson becomes obvious. Tucker, Tillis, Ruddock, Green and Bonecrusher were lucky if they won a dozen rounds between them in their fights with Tyson and these aren't impressive or convincing, yet you are impressed by Foreman losing every round against Moorer before the KO, losing every round against Holyfield, losing damn near every round to Tommy Morrison and winning a narrow decision over Alex Stewart!

So Tyson had a style that resulted in him either KO'ing the opponent or winning handily on points, but still he gets no credit for this because he didn't need to "adjust" in these fights, get a desperation late KO or get knocked down three or four times, which apparently impresses you more. It's also ridiculous to suggest that blasting out someone like Berbick in two rounds was not different to outpointing (and outjabbing!) a 6'5" boxer like Tony Tucker. Foreman's goal was to win by KO as well, except when he failed to get the KO he either lost or had to rely on a narrow decision based on aggression.

 

So give Holyfield no credit at all?

 

To be honest i've never overly looked into it. On the surface i would think it more circumstantial than anything.

 

Maybe a few but the vast majority saw it as Tyson got lazy and unfocused and was ready to bounce back as a still very young and fit guy. He went out and fought the biggest, highest rated guy and beat him twice. He showed focus, heart, desire and conditioning in both fights. While Tyson was fighting Ruddock Foreman was on the shelf, fighting once in the next year against tomato can Jimmy Ellis. Then he looked like crap against Alex Steward.

 

If Tyson can handle Ruddock in the 90's, big fat old George will die of old age against him in the ring