My view on Mikey vs Loma has changed.

i could agree with that. i think linares is the most skilled of the lot, easter the most physically imposing, and pedraza, well hes neither. i think linares beats the other 2. none of them are fit for elite competition.

 

Is this based on Pedraza and Linares fights or mostly Pedraza, out of interest?

If the latter then I think that's remarkably harsh. He won the fight comfortably enough and it was his first foray back since shoulder surgery. Pedraza has looked better at this weight than previous IMO and he was always a pretty decent fighter (if he wasn't, then no one would bother speaking about Tank).
That isn't to say I disagree with your point; I think this weight it likely Loma's limit at world level. But worth noting some physical differences between him and Floyd for example, like the reach difference alone makes him more equipped to operate at higher weights, not just his remarkable skill.

 

I have to give credit: You are only person I took time to nusiance(old account) with patronizing PM's that had the discpline to ignore me.

Not to go off topic but I think Garcia is going to fight Spence close. I am thinking 8-4 or 7-5 with competitive rounds. I am putting big money on that going the distance. I do feel Garcia will retire and enter the Sbheriff's academy after though.

 

meh, im realistic about what this is. i dont really know anyone here and nobody really knows me, so i dont live it outside the moment. i allow myself to enjoy a good debate, a good squabble, or some trolling for kicks, without carrying it with me once i shut the pc down. i must not have thought continuing the convo would offer me any entertainment.
mikey does talk about his outside interests too much for a guy who should eat and sleep boxing. i think he already has more money than a guy like him aspires too have, his real estate holdings got him very well set up. i know mikey has no love for fighting, not like true fighters do, so it wouldnt surprise me if he all of a sudden he decided he wanted to be a cop instead, especially since its something he already actively pursued while boxing..

 

I hear you, although I thought the difference in levels was still on display.

Agree with the last line. At least at world level anyway. I actually think - outside of Garcia - the better fights are probably at 130 as well. All the same, I'm still going to enjoy the Loma Show whilst we have him.

 

He beat up Moran.

 

Completely agree with this. It's slim pickings at LW. At SFW, you have Berchelt & Davis that are great fights, Machado & Farmer are good fights. Even Frampton, who wants to move up to SFW, would be a decent fight.

 

Everyone is no doubt basing this newfound "Loma is overrated" crap on the basis of what Tank did to Pedraza
compared to what Loma did. Tank ran Pedraza over and knocked him silly, Loma still schooled Pedraza. Two different fights,
two different styles. Plus Loma was playing it safe.

Loma still beats Tank and Mikey in my opinion and is in no way, shape or form overrated.

 

This is the truth, I vastly over rated Loma but kept it to myself. The fans that automatically put him in with the 2 (and 2 of the true ATG of the modern Era).

Mikey would mop the floor with Loma and it's too easy which would hurt both fighters careers. Mikey would get minimal credit for the nature of the way he beats Loma. Nobody really knows but I'd be shocked with ANYTHING other than MG hurting or simply scoring endless knock downs and eventually stop Loma.


Hypothetically,,
Loma fighting MG with it ending as a pick em fight in a rematch or if Loma was caught by the perfect shot that changed everything.

Loma in FACT is truthfully the exact same size as BOTH fmj and pac especially when all 3 were and are in their physical and mental prime.

Fight night weights all 3 are mid to upper 140''s a all are between (5'6" and 5'7")

Look what fmj and pac were able to do when they both were physically out matched in most of their fights.

Going up and beating jmw and seriously those 2 were the best and historically most dominate welter weights we'd ever seen .

You are correct, fmj and pac completely spoiled us and that kind of hurt this Era because those 2 still hang around when they (literally) shouldn't be ALLOWED TO by their ****ing teams

 

Doesn't matter what anyone "lies" about, you have your own eyes and a brain to tell you what you should be thinking you saw

 

Mayweather was tall and long and defensively minded. Loma isn't tall or long and his defense while very good isn't quite as good as Mayweather's.

And Pac had power and just a general savagery in the ring that Loma lacks. Pac would always be right there willing to engage in a absolute brutal, incredibly intense, knockdown drag out war. Look at his fight against Cotto. Busted ear drum, busted up face, bruised body. The dude was an animal. Is Loma prepared or capable of getting into body wrecking fights against bigger men? I think not.

 

Loma/Mikey is 50/50. Its not a gimme walk over fight for Garcia. If it was then Haymon would let Garcia fight him.

 

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I guess you haven't done enough sport to see that if any athlete returns after a serious injury, it takes a long while to get back to their best

 

of course hes not. loma isnt solidly built like that, hes a dancer, not a running back. his dance training taught him to move with excellent balance, but it prevents him from holding a solid base, so he gets thrown off balance much easier when caught flush. that will be a problem when facing guys with the power to tip you over with a jab.