Trainers: One Hit Wonders

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's discuss some one hit wonder trainers who, though they achieved great success with one fighter, are overall more luck than ability.

    Virgil Hunter - His speedy descent to irrelevancy can't go fast enough. Andre Ward made Andre Ward, Virgil at best kept a young kid on the right path. He's on the border of not knowing **** about boxing. He is a bizarre looking weirdo who constantly tries to sound like an old school jazz cat. At one point he had a stable full of fighters who were former champs or challengers. Sure, they were all technically flawed in different ways, but what did Virgil do about that? He whispered in their ears as they went out and showcased the same flaws that brought them to Virgil in the first place.

    Freddie Roach - Roach taught Pacquiao how to use a right hook. Thus concludes Freddie's list of accomplishments. Pacquiao is an all time great who happened to walk into Roach's gym as he began to build a name in the US. The things that make Pacquiao great are not coachable attributes. His insane speed and power, his instinct for strange punches and angles. Roach can hold pads and speak fractured English to a guy who is still learning the language, but he is not a great trainer. He taught Provodnikov nothing, pawning him off on some assistant. Freddie is media hype that he has worked very hard to create. I pray we have no more of Freddie's "I'm actually a tough guy you know" moments at another press conference.

    There are many more but these two were easy.
     
  2. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about Canelos trainer Reynoso
     
  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Could be...Canelo does seem to be learning a lot under them. We'll have to wait and see.
     
  4. Boon

    Boon Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    WE will really see, when we see what they do with Ryan Garcia. Obviously, they will get him on the special Mexican meat and shakes etc.

    But can they turn him into a major force in his division?
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nah, no one can train Ryan Garcia. Dude is some conry ass twink, I won't judge the Reynoso's if Garicia gets knocked the **** out.
     
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    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Abel sanchez!! Biggest pos in boxing
     
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    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    tysons old trainer aaron snowell
     
  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hadn't considered this, could be a good one.
     
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  9. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So basically trainers should get zero credit?
     
  10. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Hes had loads of fighters over the years though, very good fighters !
     
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  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roach revived cottos career to win the MW belt from the lineal champ I believe or at least the main champ.
    Also disagree on provodnikov, where was prov before roach? I
     
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  12. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Fight should never have been made, Martinez should've retired by that point through injury.. Really hollow victory
     
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    Billy Nelson with Ricky Burns
     
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  14. titanic

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    Floyd Sr.
    hands down :zpong:
     
  15. BeanutPutter

    BeanutPutter New Member Full Member

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    I think it's a loaded question TBH, even a great trainer will take on fighters with only domestic hopes. Guys like Emannuel Steward come once in a blue moon

    Virgil Hunter is a great analytical mind, He's a trainer who looks at his "flawed" fighter, looks at his fighters upcoming oppenent and devises a strategy and likely 'win condition'.