Should there be a Super Heavyweight Division?

>Wilder, Fury and AJ

Fury had 40+ lbs on Wilder.

Wilder is considerably smaller than Fury, Kiltschko, and AJ and would compete at HW if there was a SHW division.

If there was a new division Wilder would fight for heavyweight titles against guys like Povetkin. Not a cakewalk by any means, but Wilder would have a better chances than he has against the elite SHWs.

I like the idea. A new set of belts would encourage good fights.

 

No

And Wilder wouldn't even be close to a SHW as It's about weight, not length.

A 6' 4" guy that weights in at 168 is still a Super Middleweight and not a Heavyweight.

And yes, this nonsense comes up every few months indeed

 

No.

I shudder at the thought of the heavyweight division losing its appeal - and it would if a super heavyweight division was introduced.

 

No. Surely the point of the heavyweight division is that the champ is 'the man' in the sport. The baddest man on the planet. You'd probably just get the lighter fighters moving up to super heavy and fighting there, regardless of weight. Essentially, the heavyweight division would become an extension of the current cruiserweight division.

 

So the division would be based on height, not weight?

 

It will be known as the Super Highhight™ division.

 

You could avoid that by pushing all the existing weight classes up 10 or 20 pounds to reflect the changes in average size and weight.

A new lowest weight division, ''teenytiny weight' would need to be added naturally.

 

This has been covered already - the last twenty years is actually split between heavys andso called superheavies in terms of title ownership. Lewis himself was taken out twice by non SHWs, but handled SHWs wirthout much trouble...and is the SOLE ATG superHW in boxings entire history. Hes the opposite of the trend.

If for a moment you think the Klitschkos tag team years and hiding from middlers who smashed them out with ease is dominance, then you dont know what superb marketing they benefited from such that , in a 15 year career span their greatest achievements are beating a retired previously failed fair contender who could get a title shot when active... and beating a bit part title holder only fit for 6 rounders. Their era represents a failure to dominate, entirely evident form the need to use the word "their" not "his", when describing it.

 

And maybe a super super hw division with Jared Miller and Dustin Nichols. And maybe even Naz Hamed if he keeps on expanding.

 

No. Fights like Usyk vs Joshua probably wouldn't happen.

 

very good, but you cant call it super super. You'd need a new name entirely. This is where we need to get creative. Any ideas, fool?

 

Not at all. Most of the guys who complain about the super heavies are either ex cruisers or guys who could make cruiserweight. The heavyweight champion is 240. Its hardly super heavy. Valuev was 7 foot 300lb plus, Haye, an ex cruiser, took him to school. Povetkin is only 6'2 220lbs and was the second best heavyweight in the world for the best part of a decade, Wilder was only 209lbs and despite being outboxed, held his own against a 6'9 256lbs Fury. Its healthy having an open division, brings a mix of different types of fighters with different skills and styles. If your good enough, size and weight take a backseat.

 

No, there's no point.

Other than Fury and Joshua pretty much everyone current that could be considered SHW are beatable by smaller guys, Think about little Amir Mansour, he's tiny and yet was handing Gerald Washington and Dominic Braezale (both would be considered SHWs) their asses and should really have wins over both (if not for bad fortune). Chris Byrd, out dueled a Jameel Mccline that was 60 pounds heavier and had 6 inches over him, Tua routinely knocked out everyone regardless of size and height, Monte Barrett (another small HW, beat a super, super size HW in Tye Fields in 30 seconds), Haye dispatched neanderthal Valuev, Julius Long (a 7 footer), got consistently beat on by multiple people. The smaller guys and larger guys are all still super competitive and their is proper parity with the body types as far as skill.

Lennox was dominant because he was highly skilled (taller yes, but also faster, a bigger puncher, better defensively than most of his contemporaries), as was Wlad (who's hands were faster than most opponents). Height and size weren't the only factor.

And lastly Wilder isn't a SHW simply because he's tall (indeed he's barely a HW). stop sayng that.

 

people who cant cut it at HW would just pile on the pounds to fill the division, making it mediocre. As if HW isnt at enough of an ebb as it is.