Is there any trainer who can improve Wilder's boxing skills?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  2. archdeacon99

    archdeacon99 Member Full Member

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    Lennox wants to train him
     
  3. Official Scorecard

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    There's many trainers who could help Wilder improve his skills, but the problem is Wilder himself is undermining the importance of skills and is shown in many interviews not willing to work on them. You can put him in the gym with whoever you'd like but can't make him learn something if he's not willing to lean it. Soon I'll talk more about what I've seen these last days while rewatching and studying Wilder - Fury fight, where I told myself a couple of times that Wilder could hit Fury many times if he only worked a bit on setting up the shots and feinting, just some small things that would help him, but he never did it in the fight.
     
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  4. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A lot of people saying Steward could have. I'm not sure about that. He's got that lanky power punching build that Steward specialized in; but, Steward helped fighters that wanted to learn. Wilder does not seem interested in learning the craft.
     
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  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think he can make minor adjustments

    As bad as he did vs Fury he still nearly knocked him out

    I really think if Wilder was a little more creative on offense he could have had more success. I thought he relied too much on his right hand shot to the head when Fury gave him the body.

    I'm not sure Wilder is going to make all the right improvements. Fury pretty much did what he does, maybe in the rematch he will be lighter and sharper. Wilder can take the experience, study the tape, and improve some tactical planning on how to set up his shot and possibly land it sooner than say round 12.
     
  6. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    He can't give up the wide stance. Long thin legs, high center of gravity equals poor balance at 6'6.5'' and 209 lbs.
     
  7. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The best trainer for him would have been the late Emanuel Steward .... other then him Deontay is too far into his career to change so he should stick to what got him here and ride it out
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    This is the problem. Wilder could get with any of the best trainers in history and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. He's too ignorant and hard-headed to truly listen to anyone. In his mind he thinks he's got the perfect style to knock anyone out, and his handlers and yes men that he surrounds himself with only reinforce that delusion. Not to mention he just doesn't look like he possesses the IQ to truly adopt and integrate anything other than the most rudimentary of skills. He's a fighter who fights more or less the same now as he did when he first started, and if he hasn't been able to improve by this stage he either can't or won't.

    The Fury fight should have been a wakeup call to him that perhaps his style isn't all it's cracked up to be, and perhaps it could have been had he not had a bunch of smoke blown up his ass in the aftermath. As it is, he's already trying to convince himself that he just had an off day and everything will be fine in a rematch. He's too dim, too delusional, and surrounded by too many bad elements for anyone to make any real progress with him at this stage.
     
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  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.

    He is 33. He has Mark Breland a 5 time Golden Glove champion and gold medalist. Breland knows everything about technique. Wilder either is incapable, talent wise, to improve, or doesn’t take instruction well.
    If I were Breland (who is a nice guy) I would leave. Wilder’s technique is so bad Breland gets 0 credit on anything “boxing related” Wilder May achieve and every win is chalked up to his overhyped right hand power. Quite simply it’s a thankless job for Breland. No credit for wins, and looks like he can’t coach since Wilder never shows improvement. Breland deserves better. Good guy and I hope he gets to teach pupils with a higher ceiling
     
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  11. Manfred

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    I think that he can adjust enough to stop Fury in the rematch. All he has to do is jab and feint that right hand before he throws it and aim it low because Fury is a ducker. If he leads with a right hand, it should go right to the middle of Fury's gut for at least the first three or four rounds. All he needs to do is slow Fury down and it's good night nurse. That why he caught him in the twelfth. Right hand, left hook.
     
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  12. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Part of me wishes he would have trained with Robert Garcia. The changes that he did with Maidana was astounding.

    I can only imagine how much more deadlier of a fighter he would be if he wasn't just a wild swinger but a calculating boxer-puncher.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Any trainer that knows a bit could help him out. But Wilder does not listen.
     
  14. OvidsExile

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    The problem isn't the trainer. It's the athlete. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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  15. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do know that Mark Breland was a Steward fighter? Also was the best US amateur ever! I would be blaming the fighter not the trainer.