Sources: Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury fight generates 325,000 PPV buys

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    :sherlock:Do your research redcoat.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wow was the live gate really only $3.5 mill, that's not a lot at all, they must have given away a ton of tickets, more than 50%, because Mayweather/Berto sold tickets at a similar price, sold 12.9K and did over $10 mill live gate.
     
  3. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well that gets rid of the argument Showtime, Wilder and Fury have been making. They got 3 or 4 million a piece, AJ makes like triple of both these guys purses combined. In fact, Klitschko made at least twice that against AJ surely. It's embarrassing that they label this the resurrection of the heavyweight division. SHOWTIME, that was Joshua-Klitschko. That fight is the one that resurrected the division. Without it, Fury would not have returned and Deontay would still be fighting bums. That's the bottom line.

    And they ramble on about making more money in the US. These guys are not called Floyd Mayweather. Floyd is the exception. AJ is making way more money, selling more tickets and attracting more people on PPV. Joshua-Takam PPV did almost 3x Wilder-Fury's numbers.

    This makes the 50-50 demands look silly. Wilder's biggest fight did 300k PPV with a bigger potential reach. Joshua-Klitschko did around 1.5m PPV. How can he demand 50-50. Joshua in reality should be arguing a case for 75-25 here. 3 belts to 1. And more than 3x the numbers in every possible sense.

    AJ is right. There is no need for a Las Vegas showdown. Wembley is the place to be.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Fury is a 6'9'' 260lb Naz (as a fighter not personality-wise).


    Donkey struck gold when the drug-ravaged inactive suicidal shell of Fury's shot ghost called him out and agreed to fight him in his country and he needs to shake Big John Fury's hand for spawning the mad bipolar genius with the gift of the gab and immeasurable charisma who dragged him out of obscurity into the spotlight.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah Fury's the best talker and salesman in the game and he has more personality and charisma in one of his toes than 99% of other boxers do combined. He's also very likeable too.
     
  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    What is your obsession with Hispanics on undercards? And also what is a Hispanic? Who specifically are you talking about when adding these mythical Hispanics because this ain't 2002. There is only 1, one, uno, popular Mexican fighter and that's Saul Alvarez.
    No Puerto Ricans
    No other Mexicans
    No Central American fighters
    No South American fighters
    None, none,none, nein, nein, nein! Please stop typing this as if there is some great wave of popular Spanish speaking fighters out there, because there isn't.
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, that would mean they both got around $10 million a piece. The $3 million (Fury) and $4 million (Wilder) figures were their guarantees. If the fight sold zero PPVs, they were still guaranteed that much. The PPV made $24 million. So their cuts from that go on top of the $3 million and $4 million.

    They both got around $10 million without Joshua or Hearn's involvement.

    And it looks like they're going to do it again in the spring. And they hope to make more than that for the next one.

    Good for them.

    And each PPV they sell in the U..S. is one more PPV that Joshua has never sold in the U.S. (Because he's never been on PPV here.)

    I think they call that "stacking wins."
     
  8. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Although what you have said is true. The only fact I can’t get away from is they would both make a guaranteed purse of $20m to fight Joshua who has 3 of the 4 belts. They will not make anywhere near that for the rematch. They will make more but I would guess $12-15m, why in that case would you not take the Joshua fight unless there is an alterior motive? My guess is Haymon is using Wilder to try and keep PPV alive in the wake of DAZN
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson Fury already has all the belts Anthony Joshua has. He won them against Klitschko. They're all in his trophy case. So I don't think winning duplicate copies of the belts he already owns means much to him at the moment. Wilder likes being the WBC champ. I don't think winning the WBA "super' belt (does anyone want all the nonsense that goes with that belt/org?) or the IBO crown matters to him, much, either.

    All three of them are completely different personalities and fighters. I believe both Wilder and Fury want to fight Joshua, but they want to be treated as close to equals as possible. Since Joshua and Hearn won't do that, Wilder and Fury will fight each other and treat each other that way and see where it takes them.

    Right now, they're doing great. A couple of $10 million paydays. Another possibly bigger payday in four months or so. They both keep their independence. Fan interest in them continues to grow. With each fight, Wilder and Fury are becoming bigger stars in their own right.

    Basically, they don't need Joshua right now. So neither feels the need to go crawling to Hearn. And now Joshua is the one who seems to be scrambling for an opponent.
     
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  10. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really they dont want all of the belts. Be serious for a minute, thats all that matters in boxing the belts and the money. AJ offers them both, 3 of the top belts and double what they have ever earnt. If they beat him they are the man and go down as one of the all time greats. On top of this Wilder is 33 and will slow down at some point and Fury is unlikely have a long career due to the lay off he had. Wilder keeps screaming One Champion must be the way forward. By all means take the rematch, Fury wins Wilder becomes irrelevant and goes back to fighting for a $1m and if Fury doesnt want the belts I am guessing by your theory he vacates then we never see those fights get made and AJ picks up the vacant WBC belt.
     
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  11. Sampneb

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    I think it's a solid number all things considered.

    Rematch would do 400-430K I reckon.
     
  12. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They comped the arena big time. What did they sell 10k?
     
  13. Manfred

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    Good fight , good numbers. Second fight will be better and so will the numbers. They leaving Joshua out in the cold begging to get in.
     
  14. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Why wont they release the official numbers?
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Begging to get into a fight that grosses $12 million? AJ does triple that in the UK against random opponents.