TONS of tickets remaining for Canelo-Fielding ... will they turn on the lights?

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  1. N17

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    Mr B, Nah that's not fair, he just likes to check up on his mother while she's working.
     
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  2. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    That over 10 million people watch porn???:risas3::duh:risas3:
     
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  3. N17

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    Hahahaha :lol:
     
  4. lobk

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    Muso wants company or individual to contact them to track down places that are hosting their intellectual property. That's about all they do in a nutshell.

    When you connect to the stream site you are only communicating with the hosted server. The TCP header only has the information of your IP and the sites IP. The server does not provide any other information other than the requested streaming data to you. In this case the streaming video. The only way you would know that there are thousands of other connections is if the server itself query it's tcp connections and spits it out in the http request. But the streaming site has no incentive to provide the hitcount. If I saw a site that shows 5k connection I wouldn't use it cause that tells me there are to many connections. I would look at sites with smaller numbers. Remember these sites are in it for money. More connections means more advertisement or malware infections. With video eating up a lot of bandwidth the more connections a site has the slower the connection and congestion. If the site does not provide the number of sessions then a packet capture would be needed. The packet captures shows all communication coming and going from the server. You can then query this data for the source IP and spit it out onto a a spread sheet and also get the count for the numbers of connections.
     
  5. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Stop using FACTS!!!!!!
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The numbers mean nearly 10 MILLION PEOPLE WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY AND KNOWINGLY BROKE THE LAW TO WATCH IT LIVE because they wanted to see it.

    What the hell do you think they mean?

    And Joshua's DAZN numbers mean only 15,000 people in the US BOTHERED TO WATCH A FREE, LEGAL FIGHT that the promoter said "HERE. IT'S FREE. PLEASE WATCH THIS."

    MANY MILLIONS in the U.S. wanted to watch Wilder-Fury.

    Only 15,000 in the U.S. wanted to watch Joshua-Povetkin.

    The questions it raises are endless.

    But the one they're likely most interested in is how to get about a million of those 10 million to buy the rematch ... whether that means lowering the cost or threatening legal action against the sites they've identified if a link goes up. All that.

    OKAY?
     
  7. lobk

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    God Lord you are dumb if you think Youtube is what these PPV events are worried about. It really does show your lack of technology if Youtube is your argument. Only a true idiot host something illegal on youtube.
     
  8. lobk

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    No one is arguing that people went out of their way to watch it illegally. There wasn't one post that says otherwise. What people are laughing at is the crazzy numbers hey are pulling out of their ass. That you somehow think they can get just by visiting the streaming site. And no, youtube does not count. It is a google hosted free streaming site that will take legal actions.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    YouTube isn't my argument. I don't go on YouTube to watch live streams of fights. I'm telling you the percentage (18 percent) of where the nearly 10 million illegal streams originated from.

    **** off, seriously.

    It's taken you hours to catch up with this conversation.

    Everybody on this board knows about streaming sites and uses them.

    So why the hell is this 10 million figure so freaking SHOCKING to all of you.

    If you took a poll of the number of BOXING FANS ON THIS BOARD who ordered it or streamed it, the percentage would probably be close to the 375,000 who purchased and the 10 million who watched it illegally.

    The point is the JOSHUA-POVETKIN fight was a LEGAL FREE great quality stream and only 15,000 people in the U.S. bothered. Meanwhile, nearly 10 million are trying to find and watch illegal streams of Wilder-Fury.

    That's what started people going bat**** crazy in this thread.
     
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    So they couldn't sell out the arena, did less than 350k PPV buys and you believe 10 million people streamed the event?

    You're are genuinely incredible LOL, I don't care who reported that, it's utter nonesense, the numbers do not make any sense whatsoever when taking those two facts in to consideration.

    Regardless, Your numbers are off, the way you are trying to align the two numbers are so bias..

    You are including estimated worldwide numbers when talking Wilder.

    And only US DAZN numbers when talking AJ who fought on UK time in the U.K.


    You can't see the bias and difference in what you are trying to do?

    I read somewhere millions stream AJs fights in Africa and across the Middle East, that's why Hearn was talking about a fight in Nigeria a while ago.. shouldn't we count those numbers too?


    See what I mean? Means absolutely nothing doesn't it.. you fool.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    I NEVER said that. But nice way to try to steer the conversation in a different direction.

    MILLIONS WATCHED WILDER FURY in the U.S.

    Thousands watch Joshua-Povetkin.

    That's what set the idiots off. That's not what they've been preaching for months.
     
  12. lobk

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    Man you are a special kind of stupid. You are now getting mad cause you’ve been shown how dumb your original argument was and now spinning it as if we don’t think people are pulling down stream.

    Yes , people are watching these streams. Millions of people. But for a journalist to throw about a number and then people using that number as a factual argument is wrong. THAT has been what people are telling you!!
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    Of course it means something. If you know MILLIONS want to see something and are interested enough to do something illegal to watch it ... then you know there's an audience.

    And you can take steps to grab them. (LIKE for example, not OVERCHARGING them.)

    If you offer them a fight LEGALLY AND FREE and only 15,000 are interested ... and not MILLIONS ... you have a problem. (Because you can't charge less than FREE.)

    I hope you don't run a business. You'd be out of business quickly.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm the only one here who hasn't changed his argument. Your ass has been all over the place.

    Nice tap dancing. But I've about had it with you for one day.
     
  15. N17

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    You didn't address your blatant bias.. Trying to use exaggerated estimated WORLDWIDE numbers for Wilder.

    And only DAZN US numbers for Joshua, a UK fight on UK time.




    You really don't see a huge problem with what you've just done? That's how far gone you are.