ESPN has Deontay Wilder in their top 10 p4p list!

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  1. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I concur.
     
  2. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Switch 2 with 3.
     
  3. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Going off achievements is stupid. It's not what you win really, it's really who you beat to get there.

    Spence has been a top P4P fighter since day one. And brook is 10x the fighter anyone Usyk had ever been in a ring with, including sparring and training all together
     
  4. Wasteman

    Wasteman Certified Wasteman Full Member

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    What reasons would you cite for swapping them around? Personally, although stylistically speaking they are distinct, I still think of them being roughly equal in terms of their talent. I put Usyk higher because I feel he's faced tougher opponents but then I can also appreciate that Crawford's record isn't poor by any means and also appreciate the fact he's moved up and is challenging himself. Ideally I could do with seeing him face a higher quality opponent than Horn and come away with the win before putting him above Usyk but I'm willing to hear any solid argument against my reasoning.
     
  5. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    American network, I’m in shock right now
     
  6. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so if it's not on achievement or results it's just based on opinion? If that's true what is the opinion based on? Anything other than achievements/resume/belts/title's can't and won't hold up against a fighter who has achievements/resume/belts/title's don't ya think???
     
  7. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bud has done way more with his career than Usyk, moving up three times and winning tiles trumps anything Usyk has done. (IMHO)
     
  8. Hurrikeen

    Hurrikeen Member Full Member

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    The inclusion of Wilder is weird.
    The inclusion, let alone placement, of Spence is outrageous.
     
  9. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Inoue a Wrecking Machine & should be up the top of any p4p list,no way is he no7.
    Loma & Inoue are 1 & 2.
     
  10. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder is a top 3 heavyweight and a good fight with heart. P4P though? Come on now, I don’t think some people know the meaning of it.
     
  11. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    He's never cleaned out a division, and never been a unified undisputed champion. His opponents were often weak, and for every fight he's had since he won his first title over soft beltholder Burns he's had home town advantage.

    Usyk has faced better competition. With no cherry-picking, he's beaten all the best in his division in THEIR home countries.
     
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  12. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Haha the hometown fighters need to check their privilege.
     
  13. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Spence and Wilder are the two weird things I see in this list. I mostly agree with the rest, nothing outrageous apart from that.
     
  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    If they consider Wilder a LHW then yea, pound 4 pound he's pretty good.
     
  15. HappyClappy

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    This, this, a thousand times this. Crawford gets a pass because hes American. If he came from Africa, nobody would care. Passes the eye test but has beaten relative nobodies, at least of a standard a top end P4P fighter should have done in order to warrant that place.
     
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