Lomachenko Would Be One of Pacquiao's EASIEST FIGHTS; KO—Any Version, Any Weight.

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  1. Wasteman

    Wasteman Certified Wasteman Full Member

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    This is such a great fight on paper that it honestly wouldn't surprise me if boxing fanatics are still debating who would win this fight 20 years from now and probably still debating whether Loma actdually did duck Pac too.

    This is a true 50/50 fight in my mind. To swing towards Loma would be to overlook Pac's power and experience and to swing towards Pac would be to overlook Loma's ring IQ and athleticism.

    Of course, it could also turn out to be a mismatch too and reasonable arguments can and already have been cited for either man overwhelming his opponent.
    I disagree however and personally believe this fight would be an absolute masterclass in the sweet science and extremely competive from the first bell.

    And that is why I believe Loma is a smart man for not risking this one IMO: he doesn't need Pac's scalp to continue building upon his legacy and, judging by the discussion surrounding this fight, even were he to beat Pac, it could still end up doing more harm to his legacy than good.

    That's my 2 cents anyway.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Neither Pedraza or Linares play to Loma's strengths and he still dominated them, Pac's style is easier for Loma to deal with than either of them. As far as your triangle theory of Pac beating Jorge and Jose easier is concerned, who cares, he beat Cotto and Hatton easier than Floyd, and what happened? Floyd beat him, and don't waste your time with any IV jokes.

    Where did I say it would be easy for Loma? I didn't. That was you saying it would be easy for Pac. It would be a competitive fight, but the guy with the better timing and defense, which is Loma would ultimately prevail.
     
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  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Floyd used illegal IVs. For whatever reason he used them (clearly NOT to treat severe dehydration), it was a obviously performance advantage. That said, Floyd's a spoiler and owned physical advantages over the smaller Pacquiao. Pacquiao was injured and was still competitive (I had him winning based on punches landed, but that's a whole other issue).

    Once again, Loma is made for Pac. Guys who come forward and try to overwhelm Pac get punished and beaten down. Against Loma, Pac would be fighting a guy that's more or less his size and doesn't pack brutal concussive counters like a JMM. Pac has elite timing as well, but is rarely given credit for it as he's not a sit back and counter kind of guy. Loma, if he stays true to himself, will coming forward all night and flicking out that rangefinder/distractor jab. Pac will either throw with him and WIN the exchanges, pick his shots and put Loma out, or go for the kill at the opening bell. I don't see Loma coping under any scenario.
     
  4. BCS8

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    I know Holy wanted to fight the Klitschkos but he was totally shot by then. I personally think that having Holy on there would have meant nothing except for possible brain damage for Holyfield. That guy was too brave for his own good and would have gotten sent to ICU.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac is still levels better than Loma's recent opposition.
     
  6. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah, you wouldn't, but I've seen casuals say he was being ducked. And even hard cores note how they don't have an ATG name on their resume while not minding that alot of other ATGs only had shot versions of ATGs on their resume (holmes, Tyson Johnson, Marciano etc etc)
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Any version of Manny ''Multi-Story Car Park Head'' Pacquiao gets taken to Slick School by Loma. Pacquiao ain't never seen slickness like that before. Floyd would be the closest one of his opponents in terms of slickness to Loma but even he doesn't come close and like Pacquiao is also highly allergic to slickness. We're talking about someone who if not for corruption rearing it's ugly head again would've been 0-3 against a pre-juiced JMM and everyone knows Pacquiao has been juicing like crazy for most of his career.
     
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  8. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Pacquiao gives him a good fight if they fought now!

    Loma is class but Pacquaio was on another level
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't care. Mayweather would school him roided or not, just like JMM.

    Loma doesn't come forward against actual threats, he's a counter puncher by nature. How many genuine KO's has JMM ever scored? He's never been a one punch KO guy, he tends to break his opponents down and stop them late, similar to Loma. They both have great timing, hence why I said it would be a competitive fight. If Loma stays true to himself, he'll adjust with every adjustment, and be one step ahead of Pac the whole fight, because Loma is the smarter fighter.
     
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  10. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What fight?
     
  11. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What are you basing an 'old shot' PAC kayoing Loma at 135 on?
     
  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    id like to see the fight
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This whole thing about Marquez schooling Pacquiao is a joke. Pacquiao kept putting him on his ass and landing hard shots, walking through everything and being the aggressor. They were close fights that ended in a draw and Pac win. It's a combat sport here with emphasis on combat part. The 4th one being well past the expiration date. It was 8 years after the first fight, FFS.

    Ironically the guy who comprehensively beat Pacquiao was Erik Morales. But nobody brings it up because the results weren't controversial, as Erik simply won the fight. And unlike Marquez who's relatively less success against Pac was largely due to styles, Erik beat Pac simply because he was that good.
     
  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's referring to Loma saying he won't get credit for fighting the corpse of Pacman.

    It'd be an interesting fight but Loma doesn't want any of it. I don't see the point in making these threads a few times a week. We get it already.
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    if the bean counters where doing their job they'd be checking these sites to see what fights would actually sell