Why Every Fury Acolyte Needs to Pray The Rematch With Wilder Doesn't Ever Happen

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 21, 2018

Here's another one that was waved off after showing no signs off life at 5 seconds.

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PunchersChance. · Dec 21, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Here's another one that was waved off after showing no signs off life at 5 seconds.

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You just disproved your own point with this clip. The ref starts the count despite Price being out cold, and gives him every chance to recover. Unlike Fury, Price showed the ref nothing and he rightly waved it off.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 21, 2018

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You just disproved your own point with this clip. The ref starts the count despite Price being out cold, and gives him every chance to recover. Unlike Fury, Price showed the ref nothing and he rightly waved it off.
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I deliberately showed that example because he gave Price exactly 5 seconds to give a response and waved it off.

Fury was given 5-6 seconds and still the ref never thought about waving it off.

On top of that Fury didn't even make the count in time and was given more additional time to walk around the ring.

That is blatant deviation from the rules to the point of excessive stalling to give fury special treatment.

Jack Reiss has never given other opponents such chances to recover like he did with Fury. Not once. His counts to 10 are usually smooth and he has no trouble stopping fights even when opponents are making efforts to return to their feet.

Hurrikeen · Dec 21, 2018

That shrink of yours is clearly not earning his money.

red_roo · Dec 22, 2018

Readin all this wow , Will Fury be boxin anymore , maybe not at all .

Ukansodoff · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

As much as I and many other true boxing supporters would love to see the rematch between Wilder vs Fury, I have to be honest and frank and say that it is not a good idea as I do not believe the fight ends well at all.

Keep in mind I predicted how the first fight would play out as I was the one who first coined the phrase of ''Fury's eyes rolling to back of his head'' and said he would be given a terrible fright before arising back to his feet, before it even occurred. Of course the one thing I didn't foresee is the ref forgetting what number comes after nine.

My record for predicting what happens in fights is unprecedented. f 3-4 at most out of 20 fights have I been mistaken.

So when I give out a warning on what I believe will happen in certain instances, I expect you take what I'm about to reveal very seriously as the chances of these things coming to pass are of a very high possibility

As much as I disagree and lost huge amounts of respect for Fury after his glorifying of cocaine use, using roids to shed weight, piggy backing off the vulnerable and sick and calling for judges to be banned for life, I still think Fury is a good person underneath all of his mistakes and wouldn't wish to see him seriously hurt

And this is one reason why I will not blame Fury if he doesn't go through with the rematch after feeling first hand, the power of the most fearsome puncher in the history of boxing. You can call it a duck, you can call it cold feet, but at the end of the day, he is the one in there risking himself and I wouldn't begrudge him for listening to his wife and his team who've already began the process of discouraging from fighting Wilder ever again.

It certainly couldn't have been easy mustering up the courage to face such a formidable foe. Joshua was right when he barked back at the pressure from the media and fans when quipped about why he wasn't accepting 50 million to fight Wilder, when he said in that if it's so easy, why don't you guys fight Wilder!

When you listen to Fury's own words after coming through the first fight, you should understand his teams reluctance to ever put himself in that position again.

''I was brought back. I rose to my feet.I can't tell you (how I did it) because I don't know. I don't know what happened. It must have been a divine intervention, I had a holy hand upon me, that brought me back,

''I just want to thank God that I got out of there healthy and can return to my family with no brain damage.''

''I looked at the reply of the fight and I looked to me as I was unconscious and just woke up''

'' Listen, Wilder is the biggest puncher in heavyweight history. Hes the most fearsome puncher for sure Joshua would never have taken that shot he'd been nailed''

Do these words like a man who just comfortably won a fight? Or do they sound like someone who just escaped with his faculties in tact by the skin of his teeth?

Let us not forget that Fury had to watch and listen to his wife weep

'' I said I don’t think I can sit through one more bout.
“I said no more fighting''
“I don’t think I could handle another fight like that!”

“I pushed his brother Shane, 35 stone of him, over the fence and I said ‘Go and get him, go into him’.

“I thought ‘he ain’t getting up'

He isn’t getting up, he’s still down’.

“It was so stressful, it was horrible.

“It was a horrible, horrible feeling.”

Indeed it was horrible, and indeed it was in that moment, the fight should have been waved off instantly without hesitation.

So if you want to argue that fury won, which we've all heard repeated a gazallion, times due to some believing a judge failed to see the fight how they see the fight, then I will argue vehemently that Wilder won, on the basis that the ref failed to do his job as I feel a ref should do their job.

Now just imagine when Wilder gains an additional two stone (33lbs) of pure unadulterated muscle, to support the left and right hands from hell. The amount of force and velocity behind those kind of punches will potentially and undoubtedly send any mortal man straight to the morgue.

This is why I say, that every single Fury acolyte, casual and wilder hater needs to get down on their knees the same way Joshua bowed down before Prince Charles and pray to God, Allah, Mary, Jesus, Trump or whoever your idol is that I may have missed and beg that Fury takes heed to his wife's pleads.

If you are one of these dumbass sheep bred casuals who keep repeating ''fury won'' who are of the belief that Fury should go through with the rematch because you think he will ''school him'' again, understand what to expect when reality finally hits home

Since it won't matter even if Jack Reiss is reinstated to officiate the fight again and goes directly inside Fury's dressing room in order to rests both of his hands on Fury's shoulders whilst reassuringly looking into his eyes to give him his word that he will never count to 10. The reality is in the rematch Mr Reiss or any ref won't have any decision to make, neither will they be afforded the opportunity to deliver another 10 second Forrest Gimp count

There won't be anymore bargaining with Fury, No more sending Fury off for a walk, No more Lazarus miracles for Jack to witness.The only thing Mr Jack Reiss will have to mindful of is where to back step out of the way so the doctor can do his work as the only conversation left is what favorite colored bib he will wear for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

As for the rest of you, stockpile on your biscuits, your Doritos, haribos and wash down the cans of strongbow without stopping the flow, as you sit back and reminisce whilst watching re-runs of Tyson's old interviews, documentaries, guest appearances and best soundbites of all his past glories.

Enjoy it, savor and soak in all the playbacks of fury. Love him! All the tech savvy heart bleeding luvies, get those donation pages ready, and be there for your boy if this fight gets made again.
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Thats all a really lovely story Stephanie dear but where you are coming out with more Wilder would of, could of and will do in the future the rest of us actually WATCHED those same 2 guys face each other and we all saw Fury beating him. We all saw it. So now we are back to "yeah but in the future bla bla bla" We just saw Fury beat Wilder. It happened..

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 22, 2018

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Thats all a really lovely story Stephanie dear but where you are coming out with more Wilder would of, could of and will do in the future the rest of us actually WATCHED those same 2 guys face each other and we all saw Fury beating him. We all saw it. So now we are back to "yeah but in the future bla bla bla" We just saw Fury beat Wilder. It happened..
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You saw what you wanted to see.

He didn't beat Wilder.

Wilder knocked him out unconscious , Fury said so himself.

You're only argument that Fury won is that a judge made a mistake.

The ref made a host of mistakes when he dragged out his count, failed to wave it off and gave the additional recovery to Fury instead of resuming the action immediately upon his rising.

Let us take a look at the rule book so you can see for yourself why Jack Reiss is guilty of misconduct and gross negligence in adhering to the rules and standards of the sport of boxing.

The official Queensbury rule 4 states as follows; If either man falls through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, 10 seconds to be allowed him to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner, and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the 10 seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his award in favour of the other man

Where does it state in the rules that the ref should give the fallen man the liberty of taking a walk to recover before resuming action?

There is a reason why Jack Reiss felt the need to vehemently defend himself after the fight and attack those who questioned his ways, because he knew he was wrong and tried to cover his tracks with his slick it's not a 10 second count, its a 10 count run spiel. He also said he took his time because he wanted to do what's best for boxing.

His job isn't to worry about politics his job is to assess the fighters and adhere to the rules of the sport.

Stnucerasacirema · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Here's another one that was waved off after showing no signs off life at 5 seconds.

I'm only messing I know as well as you do, fury owned that lanky ****ers ass

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Ukansodoff · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

You saw what you wanted to see.

He didn't beat Wilder.

Wilder knocked him out unconscious , Fury said so himself.

You're only argument that Fury won is that a judge made a mistake.

The ref made a host of mistakes when he dragged out his count, failed to wave it off and gave the additional recovery to Fury instead of resuming the action immediately upon his rising.

Let us take a look at the rule book so you can see for yourself why Jack Reiss is guilty of misconduct and gross negligence in adhering to the rules and standards of the sport of boxing.

The official Queensbury rule 4 states as follows; If either man falls through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, 10 seconds to be allowed him to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner, and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the 10 seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his award in favour of the other man

Where does it state in the rules that the ref should give the fallen man the liberty of taking a walk to recover before resuming action?

There is a reason why Jack Reiss felt the need to vehemently defend himself after the fight and attack those who questioned his ways, because he knew he was wrong and tried to cover his tracks with his slick it's not a 10 second count, its a 10 count run spiel. He also said he took his time because he wanted to do what's best for boxing.

His job isn't to worry about politics his job is to assess the fighters and adhere to the rules of the sport.
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The bull**** count argument was debunked within a day of the Wilder fans trying to convince us otherwise. We all saw the doctored videos where a bit of time was cut out of the count to try to make it look like he didnt make the count. You dont start pulling stunts like that unless you need to and you dont need to if the count was actually long.

But no worries Stephanie, where as everybody saw Wilder lose you say Wilder won. Wrere everybody sees Wilder refusing to fight Joshua you are seeing Joshua refusing to fight Wilder. Cant argue with girls or boys like you who will stick to your shitty narrative no matter what actually happens. Id say Wilder should be really appreciative of people like you willing to defend him even when he says he doesnt want to fight Joshua but to be honest if you met hed probably punch you as he has a reputaion for punching women.

Ukansodoff · Dec 22, 2018

Instead of showing evidence of fights getting waved off why dont you post the vid of Fury getting up and winning the rest of the round. You all moan about British early stoppages but you also feel like Fury should of been stopped there and then, the fact he got up and beat Deontay down for the rest of the round proves that on that occasion the ref made the right call. If he had called that off in the 12th he would of been wrong to do so as Fury got up and carried on being better than Deontay.

You ****ers need to start making your minds up do you or do you not want early stoppages? If your answer is NO then dont ask for one here. If he had got up, wobbled around and got dropped by the very next shot then there is a legit argument that it shouldnt of carried on but thats not what happened, not even close.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 22, 2018

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The bull**** count argument was debunked within a day of the Wilder fans trying to convince us otherwise. We all saw the doctored videos where a bit of time was cut out of the count to try to make it look like he didnt make the count. You dont start pulling stunts like that unless you need to and you dont need to if the count was actually long.

But no worries Stephanie, where as everybody saw Wilder lose you say Wilder won. Wrere everybody sees Wilder refusing to fight Joshua you are seeing Joshua refusing to fight Wilder. Cant argue with girls or boys like you who will stick to your ****ty narrative no matter what actually happens. Id say Wilder should be really appreciative of people like you willing to defend him even when he says he doesnt want to fight Joshua but to be honest if you met hed probably punch you as he has a reputaion for punching women.
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You think you can side step the points I made and focus on a video which may or may not have been edited?

Read the post again moron. I didn't bring up anything about Wilder's video. There are other videos which show fury wasn't even completely upright at 10 but that is another matter as why Jack Reiss failed to do his job properly.

The problem is Reiss stretched his count out, ''took his time'' as he said before giving Fury another 10 seconds to recover.

All you can do is keep repeating the same old worn out line that ''fury won'' because you're a dumb sheep bred thicko that needs to be stamped on.

Antigoon · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

The problem is Reiss stretched his count out, ''took his time'' as he said before giving Fury another 10 seconds to recover.

All you can do is keep repeating the same old worn out line that ''fury won'' because you're a dumb sheep bred thicko that needs to be stamped on.
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Is it officially a 10 second window or a count to ten by the referee?

VicMcCoy · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Read the post again moron.

All you can do is keep repeating the same old worn out line that ''fury won'' because you're a dumb sheep bred thicko that needs to be stamped on.
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This is where you lose credibility. It’s fine to debate whether Fury ‘beat the count’ or whatever, even though I think he did it’s still a legitimate point of debate.

Issue is, as shown above, you’re incapable of debating without your deep seated fury (no pun) about this fight shining through. Talking about people needing to be ‘stamped on’ because they disagree with you. Get some perspective - it’s a sport, some people agree with you and some disagree. Nothing wrong with debating it normally.

Your essays on here won’t change the result and you definitely have taken this far too seriously. There comes to a point where you have to think if you’ve let a fight result effect you this much - maybe it’s not a healthy pastime for you.

I’m not trying to wind you up either - just seems pretty clear to me maybe you should step away from the computer now.

Ukansodoff · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

You think you can side step the points I made and focus on a video which may or may not have been edited?

Read the post again moron. I didn't bring up anything about Wilder's video. There are other videos which show fury wasn't even completely upright at 10 but that is another matter as why Jack Reiss failed to do his job properly.

The problem is Reiss stretched his count out, ''took his time'' as he said before giving Fury another 10 seconds to recover.

All you can do is keep repeating the same old worn out line that ''fury won'' because you're a dumb sheep bred thicko that needs to be stamped on.
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The problem is Wilder lost, got gifted a draw, we all saw it and you are making an idiot of yourself with these lame ass arguments. Weve all seen the videos that show Reiss took too long to count and then weve seen all the videos that debunk those videos where they show us that time has been taken out of the 10. Doctored videos.

Youve defended Wilder for so long now you just cant break out of the cycle. You cant accept reality. You Wilder fans are blaming everybody for everything and Wilder for nothing.

And as for telling me i need to be stamped on. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I bet you are shaking in your unicorn dress as you type your bull****. You know your getting ground down and nobody is taking in or believing anything you type. Why dont you put your pink Stilleto's on and come stamp on me.

Leeroy84 · Dec 22, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

You saw what you wanted to see.

He didn't beat Wilder.

Wilder knocked him out unconscious , Fury said so himself.

You're only argument that Fury won is that a judge made a mistake.

The ref made a host of mistakes when he dragged out his count, failed to wave it off and gave the additional recovery to Fury instead of resuming the action immediately upon his rising.

Let us take a look at the rule book so you can see for yourself why Jack Reiss is guilty of misconduct and gross negligence in adhering to the rules and standards of the sport of boxing.

The official Queensbury rule 4 states as follows; If either man falls through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, 10 seconds to be allowed him to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner, and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the 10 seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his award in favour of the other man

Where does it state in the rules that the ref should give the fallen man the liberty of taking a walk to recover before resuming action?

There is a reason why Jack Reiss felt the need to vehemently defend himself after the fight and attack those who questioned his ways, because he knew he was wrong and tried to cover his tracks with his slick it's not a 10 second count, its a 10 count run spiel. He also said he took his time because he wanted to do what's best for boxing.

His job isn't to worry about politics his job is to assess the fighters and adhere to the rules of the sport.
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Since we are talking rules

When a boxer is knocked down, the referee shall order the opponent to the farthest neutral corner of the ring and pick up the count from the timekeeper or the official counting for knockdowns. ... The boxer is to be unassisted by spectators or his/her seconds.
WORLD BOXING FEDERATION RULES & REGULATIONS OF ...

www.worldboxingfederation.net/wbfrulesandregulations.htm

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=36-12-140

WAC 36-12-140
Method of counting over a boxer who is down.
(6) When a boxer is knocked down, the referee shall direct the opponent to move to the farthest neutral corner of the ring. If the opponent leaves the neutral corner, the referee shall interrupt the count and will not resume the count until the opponent returns to the neutral corner.

Fury should of had MORE time to recover

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