Usyk's nutricionist: Usyk weighs in at 225-226 lbs between the fights

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  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Wilder can be dangerous if you let him throw, but as Fury showed, he can be shut down for rounds at a time. He doesn't have the sort of heavy handedness or raw strength that would allow him to throw hurtful punches without setting his feet first, and that provides a massive telegraph to any fighter that has the skills to read it and avoid it.

    I honestly see Usyk having a field day with Wilder. His constant lateral movement, his feints, his herky jerky style, his high output and odd angles of attack, those are all going to prove an absolute nightmare for Wilder to handle. As for the threat of a knockdown or knockout, barring a flash KD from a glancing shot I don't see Wilder laying a meaningful glove on Usyk. And if he does, frankly I just see Usyk grinning his maniacal grin and going straight back to work.
     
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  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do have to factor in that Usyk is 6’3 where as fury is 6’7 and a half. Of course Usyk will probably outclass wilder for huge chunks of the fight, but as we saw with Hunter, Usyk struggled with an athletic, awkward guy and I think Wilder has those two qualities. I imagine Usyk will be up on the card and Wilder will catch him with something big just liked he caught Fury and defensively sound as Usyk is, IMO his defence isn’t as good as fury. It’s different and in some aspects it’s better for setting up shots but it’s not as good at being defensive for the sake of just avoiding shots, not sure if you can see the distinction I’m tryna make.

    No way will Usyk laugh at Wilders shots, I pretty confident if Wilder clips him with a good one he is gunna feel something he has never felt before.
     
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    No, don't worry, I definitely see the distinction. Fury fights more consciously off the back foot, which enables him to slip and roll with incoming shots, almost like a giant Niccolino Locche. Usyk is a more front foot fighter, and uses head movement to confuse and get inside of fighters to land his shots before darting out again. Usyk is more hittable than Fury because of the risks he takes, but he also rarely takes one huge shot the way Fury sometimes does, and demonstrates (to my mind) a better chin.

    If Wilder catches him with a full-bloodied shot, then yes, I don't see that going too well for him, but I think Usyk puts in enough work beforehand to reduce that possibility by the later rounds. One of the craziest things about Usyk is how well he reads an opponent's rhythms and movement patterns as the fight goes on. Wilder's chances of a knockout reside in the early rounds, IMO, because by the later rounds he'll be in full on retreat mode, getting peppered with shots he can't see, anticipate, or prevent.
     
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  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly Usyk is an educated front foot fighter, so that comes with more exposure to return fire. I definitely agree.

    The thing with Wilder is he is hard to read because he punches very quickly from unconventional angles, if it goes points I got Usyk but I think it won’t get to points. 12 rounds is a long time not to get clipped by someone like Wilder.
     
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  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I want this fight
     
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  6. Rock0052

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    Wilder is that guy who would lead the league in strikeouts and home runs. He only wants grand slams.

    Usyk would have a lot of success I think, but it's fatiguing fighting someone like Wilder who doesn't get discouraged and only needs one shot. That fight is the most dangerous one out there for Usyk. He could win and he's the better boxer, but sometimes that just doesn't matter.

    I love that fight.
     
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  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s what a lot of people don’t understand, this is heavyweight boxing, where a big punch could be all it takes. Especially when we are talking about the guy with the big punch having a size, speed and power advantage.
     
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  8. Pimp C

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    A big long proven hw like fury who has better defense than usyk and is light on his feet got dropped 2x by wilder keep that in mind. Usyk can be hit he was touched up by bredis at cw and especially at hw where he will be slower. Wilder has more than a punchers chance against anyone at hw including usyk.
     
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  9. GeorgeDeservesAMedal

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    Usyk has ate shots from Gassiev and Nistor without a problem. Wilder doesn’t present much more power than those two. Arreola said Gassiev hits harder than Wilder.
     
  10. jmashyaka

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    First of all Arreola fought wilder when Wilder tore his bicep and broke his hand and Wilder still got him out of there. I fully accept that Gassiev has the heavier hands and bones but he is slow and his punchers are telegraphed. Wilder has the better delivery system, his shots come from more awkward angles, they come with more speed and in my opinion Wilder is way more prolific at landing his money shot.
     
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  11. Badbot

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    Haye likely gained weight between fights. I believe him if he says he had to cut 20lbs to get into fighting shape.
     
  12. Rock0052

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    They're also different kinds of punchers, if that makes sense. I don't doubt that Gassiev could have heavier hands where you'd feel it every shot. He can crack one-shot, but he's more of an attrition fighter compared to Wilder.

    When Wilder hits you while you're in that sweet spot of his range (which can come from unusual angles), it's a totally different ballgame. It's the kind of power you might not even feel, but then you realize you've been on the canvas for a minute. Alot of times they don't even see it coming.

    A similar style of puncher was Andy Lee. Wilder takes those gambits to the next level and has gladly traded some textbook technique and strategy for maximizing his chance of hitting the home run shot at some point within the 12 round distance. He doesn't care if a lowlights video would make him look silly for 9 rounds. And a guy like that is always dangerous.
     
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  13. jmashyaka

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    Excellently put. I don’t think I have anything to add to it.
     
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  14. Ivan28

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    Foka also said that Lomachenko can go easy to super lightweight.
     
  15. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Usyk Wilder is an interesting fight. I could see Usyk shutting him out completely and winning convincingly and I could see Usyk shutting him out until getting knocked out cold.

    I don't think Usyk would take this fight until he has faced HW power and feels he can take that kind of heat.