How amazing is the HW division right now?

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  1. Unforgiven

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    How the hell did Miller get into your top level ??
    I'd put him below the "next level" guys you mention. He'd been fortunate to get a mention at all.
    If he steps up and does something, well, yeah, then we can talk about him.
     
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    True.
    I think we can see what level someone like Dillian Whyte is at.
    I think he's legitimately entitled to the #4 spot among the heavyweights right now, and he's just pulled out a late KO to beat Chisora, who David Haye KO'd in 5 rounds years ago .... and we saw how Haye was outclassed by Wladimir Klitschko !

    The only two heavyweights conceivably capable of reaching Wladimir Klitschko's level are Joshua and Fury.
    Joshua isn't there yet .... and we need to see if Fury can regain his old form, because he isn't there yet.
     
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  3. kirk

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    Very.

    By far the most Ive ever liked the division, and up there with as much as Ive ever liked any division at one time.

    Wilder, Fury and AJ all in their prime, with momentum, undefeated, and legitimately vying for the top spot and the undisputed label.

    Then you have a solid second tier... with Whyte, Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin....

    And then youve got Usyk readying his assault on the division as well.

    I love it.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

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    Deffo mate the fights are so competitive and fan friendly.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

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    He's a juggernaut mate.
     
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  6. BoxingABC1

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    low talent level, but yes, a lot of exciting fights can be made
     
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  7. dinovelvet

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    Dillian Whyte is this eras Frank Bruno. Joshua has already beaten Wlads best win more impressively than Wlad did , and without any of his cheating tactics.
     
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  8. kirk

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    I think the quality of the division is being underestimated. Especially once Usyk officially joins.

    I rate this division better than the 2004 to 2008ish era (I think thats when Vitali was retired) and the other years benefit mainly from having both Wlad and Vitali there... but its a double edge sword because while having them both, you knew neither would be fighting the other and it kinda watered down the division to me.

    All in all... I wouldnt rate it 'strong' but its not bad either, imo.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Amazing isn't it.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    Exactly how I saw it. The quality of the brothers is beyond question, but the refusal to face each other made the division hard to get invested in. Especially when both were champions and essentially split the contenders between them.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

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    Joyce is another juggernaut , an athletic one at that. When have you ever seen such a behemoth doing cartwheels through the air :elboinas:

    You got two athletic juggernauts hovering outside of the top 10 who are both great additions to the division.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

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    Joyce is, but he's probably the slowest HW I've seen, ever.

    Immense power though.
     
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  13. dinovelvet

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    Compared to Valeuv ,he's Gary Russel Jr. Compared to Tony Thompson , he's Mike Tyson.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    He's strong but he's fat and slow as a slug.
    Hasn't really stepped up yet at all.
    I certainly wouldn't rate him above the likes of Parker, Ortiz and Povetkin.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    For sure.
    That was probably the worst division ever.
     
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