How amazing is the HW division right now?

A post I made earlier and very apt IMO.

It's a wierd era, today's fighters don't appear to have the skills or the boxing brain as fighters of the past but make up for it with brute strength, aggression, heart and determination.

Compare that to the 80's where they had the skills but lacked the heart, determination and killer instinct.

Us fans love all the hype before a match and want blood, sweat and tears. The casuals much prefer to see game plugs rather than skilled boxers go at it.

 

It's on okay era which features some interesting - and potentially exciting - match-ups...

 

Yep. And, much as I liked them, neither really helped the overall divisions health further down the rankings. They bought into the "0 can't go" mentality as far as who to face for defenses. Especially with Vitali, you had to be unbeaten to get the shot. So, contenders tended to avoid each other, and we never really got a whole lot of clarity about how good the contenders were relative to each other.

So, we knew that the K's were a lot better than everyone else, but the next step down was mostly a question mark. Arreola is the perfect example. Personally, I think a prime Arreola was an underrated fighter, probably top 5. But he never really fought anyone but Vitali and Adamek in his prime, so many would mock that. But really, we just don't know who were really #'s 3-15 in the K era, especially from 2009 on. They never fought each other, compared to today at least. There were some exceptions, of course, but compared to this era its night and day as far as clarity of the ranking just below champion level.

 

Context: Chisora lost to an old Vitali Klitschko with a torn shoulder and was outclassed by David Haye and Fury. He’s provided plenty of evidence that the Whyte’s, Kabayel’s and Takam’s really couldn’t hang with the last generation.

 

His punches are slow but he's pretty mobile on his legs. I can think of loads of guy with much slower and stiffer legs. You wouldn't really call his movement slow , not for a HW anyway.

 

It's an exciting and competitive era no doubt. Joshua has brought a lot of money back into the division and that's seen more heavies been willing to take risks instead of just padding their records and hoping to get a shot at a Klitschko as they can make good money in non title fights too.

Though in terms of quality we've yet to see if anyone can be as good as or be as dominant as Wlad or Vitali. Fury might have the ability but may lack the long term discipline to be truly dominant for any lengthy period of time and everyone else so far doesn't match up to the Klitschko's. The way Joshua struggled with an old Wlad makes be doubt he can beat a prime Wlad or Vitali and Wilder has struggled badly the 2 times he's stepped up. Whyte is decent but let's be honest he had 2 close fights with Chisora who was a fringe contender at best during the previous era, Uysk is yet to fight at heavy, Povetkin is past prime and Ortiz has only one decent win.

 

It's good in terms that we have three fighters who are pretty good in Joshua, Wilder, Fury. After that, it's ****.

Actually Ortiz is good as well, forgot to mention him.

 

This era is great.

AJ and fury aside

Wilder
Ortiz
Povetkin
Whyte
Chisora
Miller
Pulev
Parker
Joyce
Takam

Throw any of those against each other and you've got a good competitive fight with mixed opinion on who will win...

Not to forget up and comers like kownaicki hunter, gorman, dubois, etc who can all be competitive, even journey men such as duhaupas and helenius can put up a fight..

Not to mention usyk...

Sure let's lots of names I've missed but hey the top 20 are not too shabby

Charr
H.fury

Price and Allen for comedy value..

Lot of decent/good fighters with some potential great ones

 

you certainly spew a lot of bs. lol, i am a hermit? i post fart less than you do.

 

I like today’s division, but Whyte vs. Chisora is, at a generous best, a Stiverne/Arreola level fight.