Lennox Lewis He(Joshua) doesn't want those guys. He's happy being protected in England

And yet the only one that has fought any meaningfull fight outside of his own country is Fury. So why hold that against Joshua when Wilder also stays at home? Audley can hardly count as meaningfull and neither can Scott. Seems a bit disingenuous to accuse one fighter of something, while disregarding the same thing in another, especially if the latter is your obvious favorite since he fought Ortiz and Fury?

I completely get rooting for one fighter over another, thats completely natural, and I've done the same for over 30 years as a boxing fan. I used to thoroughly dislike Fury for instance, but the dude has grown on me because one has to give props to where they are due imo. But you have to be able to stay objective in the whole thing, don't you think?

I agree both need to step up and fight eachother, but I disagree with your assertion that it's Joshua that needs to make the trip overseas. It could just as easily be said it's Wilder that's expected to venture out of his "comfort zone". For what it's worth, if the financial aspects of the fight are ultimately the deciding factor, then I think it's Wilder that needs to take the trip, but I'm not American, so there you go....

 

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It kinda does and it kinda doesn't...it still discounts the financial side of things.
I understand these athletes taking the pragmatic approach and keeping paydays in mind. Maybe Wilder does it for his daughter and Joshua wants to buy his trainer a new car....it's ultimately no different from a slew of other sports where athletes switch allegiance to teams, whether for the dollar or glory. So both might be primarily thinking of "what can I financially get out of this" (I exclude managers and promoters here, probably a mistake..).

That does not prevent us from seeing good/great fights...Joshua had his with Klitschko (thats where his stock rose significantly for me)..Wilder had his with Fury (and Ortiz...his stock for me rose with that one, but fell a little bit after Fury though).

End point is that right now I fall more in the Joshua camp, where I'd say he's the "A-side". The fight needs to be made, obviously, and I couldn't care less about where it takes place...it just needs to happen as soon as possible, but the "possible" depends on negotiations, posturing and lot's of other shenanigans that I don't care about and, consequently, know nothing about.

I suppose you've been a fan long enough to remember the whole Pac vs May thing? Has there since been established a consensus here on who was to blame for the fight not taking place when it should have?

When a fighter comes along and shows that all the nonsense I mentioned above, doesn't apply to him and still keeps winning...thats when you know you've got a great on your hands... Right now...neither Joshua nor Wilder belongs in that category...but they can both still qualify....

 

Thank you. That is all i need to know.

Honestly, I’m not getting into all this “Who is gonna fight who next”. I believe Joshua is top dog, even though he is not my favorite at all.

But I will say this; Sepiroth, I do believe you know your stuff in terms of boxing. That is obvious, given your history on this site. BUT I DO believe that you are clouded by your preference for Wilder. He is good and dangerous, and could be the last man standing in the end. But he is not the best in the division right now.

 

If I remember correctly, Manny was prepared to to undergo testing, but he only wanted to be tested on certain days before the fight. That is suspicious as hell to me. And I think Floyd was a drug cheat too, we know about Xylocaine injections. His situation with the TUE IV drip makes him look seriously suspicious as well.

 

Most don't think it was a draw, though.

The fight greatly elevated Fury who had been written off by most serious observers and was seen to be 'cashing out' against Wilder.
Similarly, the Fury bout hurt Wilder who had gained a modicum of credibility with his stoppage of Ortiz.

Joshua would still be seen as #1, both by resume and eye-test, but I think the rankings of 2 and 3 was brought into sharper focus on December 1.

 

yeah, if u think I'm sticking up for Joshua, thats absolutely the incorrect assumption. I think that when he turned down the $50 million, and they showed him the proof of funds (which both sides have already confirmed that Wilder's team showed) it was obvious at that point that he doesn't wanna fight Wilder unless he absolutely is forced to... I'm not a fanboy TBH... When Usyk and Joshua fight, I just hope for an exciting fight like Klitshko-Joshua, may the best man win, and I don't care where they fight... Besides, Usyk said that his Bellew fight, he felt an amazing energy and atmosphere from the fans, he said he got pumped up even when they were booing him... He liked the rowdiness, and lets face it, there's no other place that has as passionate fans as UK in boxing, not even America. Usyk already stated he wants his nexts fight to be in UK... the Brits love him too after that Bellew fight too.

 

PBC employee Lewis went into hiding after Team Wilder declined 120$ mil offer.
Have we heard from Lennox yet?

 

The OP clowns history on this site is being a top troll and getting booted every other week it seems and being a spastic when proven wrong which is every other post.

One cannot know much about boxing if he still cannot comprehend that wilder was not WILLING to travel to Russia he was forced bc his team lost purse bid for that fight.

Hes a passive/aggressive troll ,but hes not as smart as he thinks or tries to be on here . # FACTS. lol

 

Funny people are also unaware of Lewis turning down 50 million for Vitali a few years later and demanded 100 million, himself . Lewis is a walking contradiction ,maybe its something Wilder also picked up from him besides learning how to jab in a parking lot ?

Lewis was also wearing a BLANKET while commentating Ajagaba in one of his fights not long ago in 50 degree wheather,almost makes me want to think Bowe puts a beating on him ,but unlike most im practical and cant do that,though Lewis is turning into a real softy all around the board .smh.

 

Why is Lennox so dumb? Yes, Joshua saw Wilder and his first reaction was being shocked at how good he boxed.

 

Joshua, Fury, and Wilder have all wasted their primes, and someday we'll look back and still be arguing about them, as we do about Lewis and Bowe, because to really sort things out you need trilogies. And these guys fight so infrequently and waste so many defenses on the undeserving, that there won't be time left in their careers to settle these scores.

 

I love Lewis, one of my absolute favourites. Just like Wilder but to say that Joshua is ducking Wilder is a **** NH joke, I know we have the benefit of hindsight and knowing about the 120 million but even then the signs were there.