Can a trainer make a fighter great?

Teddys legit, he just loses it sometimes

 

Ali would have been a better fighter under Archie Moore. He really didn't want to put the work in and left Archie for his own ways which was open to getting hit more and more distance fighting, moving around and less technical aspects.

it takes less work training someone with height and speed advantage to most opponent who is going to rely on athleticism and work around a jab in favor of direct technical aspects. As Dundee said he wasn't very technical but fast.

 

How was he perfect? He got severely punished and took way to much punishment. I actually think he lost the second fight bc ppl forget body punches count. H

I'm not getting into the Williams fight the guy wouldn't pass a physical in today's game.

All the things he chose to ignore was his undoing ,we could see he took uneccessary punches throughout his career , he even trained to take punches to the head that even Cus Damato warned Dundee about it before going into Frazier 1.

 

A great trainer can.

 

This is how boxing works if you are a trainer: If you have a guy that becomes the guy, then you are the guy until some other guy gets a guy. Then he is the guy.

Not every trainer can teach everything to every fighter. The great Eddie Futch taught Freddie Roach many things while he trained him but he couldn't teach him to avoid a punch. An individual trainer can drastically improve on guy and destroy another by teaching them the exact same thing. It is all about communicating in a way the fighter can understand.

 

Shout out to Mayweather Sr. who trains every fighter the exact same way.

 

Very true

 

Hmm it's a difficult one. Ali wanted to box like Sugar Ray Robinson, which to an extent he did. Moore wanted to teach him longevity, slipping and knocking guys out early.

Without doubt he would have been technically better under the guidance of Moore, however he got to be himself under Dundee, which brought out his character and produced dazzling performances....and created a legendary fighter.

 

D'Mato started with a blank canvas with Tyson. The kid was only 13 years old.

If Tyson walked into that gym aged 20+ he would have gotten nowhere.

 

if you got the tools, a great trainer will teach you how to create masterpieces with those tools, by teaching you which tool for which task.

 

The hell kind of thread is this?

Trainers can unlock the true potential of fighters.

Pac doesn't become Pac under anyone else but Freddie.