Fight of the week #10 Rocky Lockridge Double Header

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Welcome to a Holiday edition for those who have loved rescoring and rewatching and discussing classic fights. On tap this week for those who are interested 2 controversial decisions involving the hard luck kid: Rocky Lockridge

    Pedroza vs Lockridge I
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    Gomez vs Lockridge
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    And if like me you are on vacation with to much time on your hands feel free to watch Pedroza vs Lockridge II

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    Hopefully @mrkoolkevin will rejoin us and spearhead this next week! Happy New Year
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My oldest son is heading home to Maryland tonight and my 19 year old heads back to the US Army at Fort Riley in Kansas tomorrow. So I will be sad and need to occupy my mind and will rescore these tomorrow!

    Hope these warrant rewatching and discussing for you guys. Looking forward to cards from @Jel and @Pat M and all who want to join in
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If someone has the full Lockridge-Knight bout, feel free to post it up. I've only ever seen the extended highlight one.
     
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  4. Jel

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    Lockridge-Gomez

    1 10-09
    2 10-09
    3 10-09
    4 10-09 (close)
    5 09-10 (close)
    6 10-09
    7 10-09 (closer)
    8 10-09 (big for Lockridge)
    9 10-09 (scrappy round)
    10 10-09 (another big, big round for Lockridge. Gomez showing a lot of heart but being outgunned badly. If I didn't know better I'd say Gomez is on the verge of being stopped)
    11 10-09
    12 10-09
    13 09-10 (close)
    14 10-09
    15 10-09

    Lockridge 148-137 Gomez

    I need to call the police because I've just witnessed a robbery!

    So, we've talked a lot in these threads about fights that were a lot closer than they were reported to be and how myths have disproportionately grown up around these fights. Most of the time when we've rescored them they have been a lot closer than we were led to believe by the popular press and in fact a lot of them could have gone either way. In short, they were not robberies.

    Not this one. This was a terrible, terrible decision. In fact, the very definition of a hometown decision if ever I saw one.

    Gomez looked close to being stopped on more than one occasion, the left hook of Lockridge repeated stinging and staggering him. Gomez did well to survive the 10th amd fought back a bit at the end. But he looked outgunned for much of the fight.

    The final few rounds were reasonably close and I understand if other posters score these ones closer and to Gomez. However, I see no reasonable way to score this overall for Gomez. He was awarded this victory for simply staying on his feet and surviving to hear the final bell.

    A disgraceful, shameful verdict - corrupt to the core.
     
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  5. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lockridge criminally underrated on here
     
  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Gomez decision was a disgrace, but he should have known that if the fight went to the cards he wasn't coming home with the title. Not in Puerto Rico.

    I'll have to look at it again but I seem to remember scoring the Pedroza fight for Pedroza by a point.
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

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    I think I scored Pedroza Lockridge I for Rocky by a point and Pedroza by a point in the 2nd.... but it has been a while
     
  8. Pat M

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    I scored Lockridge - Pedroza 1. I gave RL the first 8 rounds, some were close and could have gone the other way. I then gave EP rounds 9-14, the 14th was a big round for EP. I then gave RL the 15th making it 144-141 for RL on the 10 point system and 9-6 in rounds. Strange fight, RL dominated early, EP dominated late except for the last round when RL came back. EP made a big comeback in the second half of the fight, but IMO RL did enough early to get the decision.
     
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  9. robert ungurean

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    What an outstanding fighter Lockridge was with a unique crowd pleasing style. Very well schooled with a great amateur pedigree
     
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  10. Saintpat

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    Props to your 19-year-old for his service to our country.

    I remember seeing all three of these live. Not sure if I’ll get a chance to rewatch to participate in the discussion, but always loved me some Rocky Lockridge so good choice! Keep ‘em coming.

    (And if you’re taking requests, how about a little Yaqui Lopez for us sometime?)
     
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  11. Pat M

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    Just watched Lockridge - Gomez. I scored it for RL 147-139 or 11-3-1 in rounds. I gave RL all of the first 10 rounds, then gave WG rounds 11,12,13, then gave RL 14, and scored 15 Even. There were some rounds that could go either way, and RL as in the Pedroza fight started fast and dominated the fight, then seemed to stop fighting and let the other guy back into the fight but I felt like he did more than enough to get the decision. RL did seem to have WG hurt a few times and it looked like he might stop him.
     
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  12. Jel

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    Agreed. Gomez was close to being stopped in the 10th which is why it was a little surprising that Lockridge didn't come out to finish the job in the 11th as I think Wilfredo was there for the taking.

    You scored 11, 12 and 13 for Gomez - having looked at other cards online, that seems to be more or less the consensus view so my card is unconventional in that I gave Gomez only the 13th from those three rounds. To double check my scoring, I went back and reviewed round 11 to see if I was just off base... and scored it for Rocky again. Gomez was busier so I can see why you scored it for Bazooka but Rocky tagged him hard three times in the round and pushed him back so his punches had more of an effect (I don't think Lockridge was hurt once in the fight whereas Gomez was visibly rocked multiple times - he showed a great heart).

    Had I scored the 11th and 12th the same as you my card would have been 146-139. Whatever way you cut it though, it's still a wide decision win for Lockridge.
     
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  13. Jel

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    I agree with you up to a point. Sure, it was Puerto Rico, but just staying on your feet shouldn't be enough to win you a fight. At no point did I think, 'this is a close fight'.

    However, if Rocky had kept up the pressure at the beginning of the 11th after a big round 10 where he had Gomez wobbled I think he could have finished the job.

    But he still kicked Gomez's ass.
     
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  14. PhillyPhan69

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    Gomez vs Lockridge thought....just got done round 6. The announcers are horrible and I wonder how much influence they have on people scoring fights. I have it closer after 6 than many....

    But the funny thing is after 4 they have Rocky up narrowly. They talk in the 5th of how Rocky is winning the round. And then in 6 they have Rovky up a hair.

    How do you go from being up narrowly to winning the next round to be up a hair. Lol they are horrible

    Edit: lol Lockridge was just up a hair and now he has taken command just as 7 begins. I don’t know what scoring system they use

    Edit 2: they keep saying from round 5-10 over and over how tired Gomez looks, he’s breathing heavy, he’s just holding on now...I don’t see it? I have Lockridge up, but Gomez is still bouncing around using the jab and throwing a fair amount....not as bad as the announce team makes it sound

    Edit 3: gomez’s Face is a mask of despair confusion and exhaustion, 1 more punch and he is gone. His corner is going to have to talk about saving him and stopping this fight at the end of the round???? Come on...he does not look exhausted or hurt just yet...they are the worst I have ever heard. I do have Lockridge controlling 6-10 but Gomez hardly looks dead just yet
     
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  15. Jel

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    I watched the fight with the sound off - don't want the announcers clouding my judgement.
     
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