A primer: how 10-counts work (if a fighter is knocked down) and how they don't...

Seconds.... lol

 

Just mind bubbling.

 

Some people have a lot of difficulty counting to ten. Why you gotta be a math *****?

 

The rules of the IBF and WBA do actually refer to seconds. I couldn't find the WBO or WBC documentation.

IBF https://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfusba_02APR2014/images/pdfs/BoutRulesOct2018.pdf

WBA https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...-6-11-15.pdf&usg=AOvVaw22t88ityIUZjbn_QMX-OmL

For the record I thought Fury beat the count.

 

We all know Fury got ko!!

 

I agree.

Some of them are actually quite inventive.

 

Yes and yes.

 

If the count were otherwise, we'd have automated machines doing it by now. The count is performed by the referee for the sake of the audience as a dramatic device and for the knocked down fighter. It's the measure by which the knocked down fighter judges his recovery. If you want to split hairs and imagine a precise ten second countdown, it could equally well be argued in this particular case that Tyson Fury would simply have arisen earlier to compensate for the smaller window. Contrary to the notion put around by both detractors and supporters of Fury, he was not knocked unconscious by the blows in the 12th round, he was only put down and took an appropriate time to recover and ensure that when he arose he was steady on his feet and likely to satisfy the Reiss that he was fit to continue. He was not pulled back from the brink by the hand of God or other such nonsense.

Wilder was comprehensively beaten by Fury and it's a sign of his supporters' lack of faith in their man that they are so dead set on finding some technical reason to draw a hollow victory from the deep and lasting embers of his defeat. Wilder was found wanting in technical skill and tactical nous in this fight and had recourse only to his usual swing for the trees approach to boxing, something many of us initially hoped he would expand upon given his first victory over Stiverne where he showed something he had not shown before. It's become all too apparent over the years since that that victory and that performance was made possible only by the pitiful level to which Stiverne belonged, something which has long gone unremarked. Commentators wanted to see mastery in Stiverne because of his counter-punching performances against Arreola, when in reality that was just a very flattering match-up for him.

 

Sounds all nice that big wall of text, but Fury admitted himself that he was unconscious, i.e knocked out.

So this notion that he was just biding his time to recover, and could have arisen sooner, is complete and utter nonsense.

Didn't both to read any further, because your basic premise is flawed and clearly have a skewed view of the fight

 

@MVC!

 

Fury has a vested interest in selling that narrative for more than one reason. You'd do better to consider the facts. Even those gifted with the most remarkable skills in recovery do not get up steady and clear-eyed from complete unconsciousness within a matter of a few seconds. Froch, whose chin is definitely remarkable, still got up with a wobble after being knocked down by Groves in their first fight and he was arguably only unconscious on his way to the canvas and not afterwards.

Fury got up and then proceeded to take the fight to Wilder, but not in the reckless manner that one would expect from someone suffering from concussion. He was methodical and precise as he was before the knockdown.

 

What I cannot stand is refs bypassing the 10 count. I can understand a fight like Gassiev Shimmell. In that instance I concede screws the 10 count. Get the doctors in here so he doesnt die.

But in other fights like Jacobs Pirog the ref stopped the fight before even giving Jacobs a 10 count. Then held him down as Jacobs tried to get up with ease. So that he could cover up his FUBAR.

To be honest the ref was good in the Fury 10 count. Dont wave off the damn fight count him out damnit.