A primer: how 10-counts work (if a fighter is knocked down) and how they don't...

All I know is that Floyd uses PEDs and beats chicks.

 

I've already found the answer but all these threads make me think maybe I'm going mad...

Can someone answer me a question?

When I was 8 I first laced up... and I was told under strict instruction, if I knocked an opponent down, I would have to retreat to the neutral corner and remain there until the next order from the referee AND if I left the corner the count would be suspended until I returned

Is this still a thing??

I just think, if we can whine about the ref making one mistake (the long count) then how can we ignore other mistakes?? i.e boogy boy (ala)bamma

 

I think this is the truth of it.

Joshua made a similar point. Or rather, he suggested Fury wasn't out...

 

Analysis of many knockdowns and referee counts,

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From the IBF rules

 

Referees decision is final, end of, as long as consistent approach taken all is good.

I do feel there is a place over and above the present set up, for what could be seen as suspect, dodgy or irregular reffing, to be investigated independent of sanctioning bodies and promotors, and penalites/banning of poor refs as consequence.

However refs are human, humans can legitimately make errors with no malevolent/dodgy intent.

Let us go back to the old school methods re 'coming up to the scratch' or if getting very modern, go Dempseyesque and allow a downed opponent to be fair game as soon as gloves and knees were off the canvas, that'll solve the ten count doubters.

 

Then why not just say count, why mention seconds at all? Seconds is a universally recognised unit of time so if it isn't "seconds", all it really does is muddy the waters.

Interestingly, being knocked through the ropes or out of the ring explicitly allow 10 or 20 seconds to return to the ring, respectively.

 

I guess we all know a 10 count is meant to be ballpark 10 seconds, but because there are a number of variables - when the timekeeper starts the count, when the ref picks it up, how quickly the other boxer finds the correct neutral corner, and the fact the ref doesn't use a stopwatch just his own internal judgment - the reality is, no count will ever be precisely 10 seconds but it will always be a count to 10.

I think people replaying tapes of KDs and finding a boxer got 9.6 secs or 10.7 secs are missing the point. If Fury got a little more than exactly 10 seconds, that's not unique or a significant factor bearing in mind how counts are conducted.

 

These were my thoughts on the matter as well, after the initial shock had worn off.

Whether it's instinct or deliberate tactic, Fury seems to have this habit of laying completely still for a few seconds after a KD. He did a similar thing in the Cunningham fight. It wasn't as dramatic, and the fact that Cunningham wasn't a known KO artist didn't lead people to believe that Fury was doing anything other than clearing his head, but comparing the two KDs it's obvious to me that there are similarities.

It makes for great drama to believe he came back from being KTFO though. Wilder certainly believes it, and it's the one major talking point of the whole fight, and the thing which many Wilder fans are pinning their hopes on. It might end up being even more psychologically devastating to Wilder's psyche than a straight schooling would have done. Wilder certainly thought he'd pulled a victory out of the fire at that point.

 

Thank You

 

Probably lacking a bit in "the quantumentals" of reading & writing

 

One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi, etc...........problem solved.