Is it a duck if Wilder refuses to rematch Fury in the UK?

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  1. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Considering we already had the first fight in the US and the majority think that was a dodgy or atleast questionable decision would it be unfair if Wilder demands the rematch to be in the US, especially taking into account all of his talk about forgetting A side / B side vs another HW.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Fury isn't interested in discussing a rematch so on how earth can a hypothetical situation be considered a duck?
     
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  3. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury wasnt counted out for 10 but you sure seem to enjoy a hypothetical scenario in which he was and actually lost the fight
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Its not a duck if Fury is not looking for a rematch ( we don't know ). Davison says its not likely they want to go back to the U.S and take that fight which is a good start because it would be foolish to even fight this clown again who is NOT going to be easy to strike a deal with now ,and Fury will find that out just like AJ has now that hes a REAL threat to Wilder and no longer a cherry pick...lol.

    ( The only reason he will fight Breazeale is he's going to be forced into it, im sure he isn't thrilled about it bc he knows its a high risk low reward fight against the hardest puncher he will face so far who has a 82 inch reach and we see what Breazeales punches do. Its ther REAL reason why hes delayed it in attempt to land AJ or Fury who are high reward /high risk )

    It is however OBVIOUS wilder would have ducked the fight by insisting it be a U.S fight because he has already made assumptions of a do over at the SAME venue...lol , when he knows Fury is within his right to request a U.K rematch elsewhere after a dodgy decision.

    Fury did HIM the favor of fighting otherwise its not a PPV event...he should realistically walk away and fight Joshua twice if hes seriously considering on TRYING to be the best and make much more money and drop the demand of 50% himself against the REAL boogeyman AJ who everyone want to cash out on..
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is true but despite that Wilder is still trying to make the fight instead of the Joshua fight. So I assume Wilder believes he can make the fight with Fury.

    Not sure why Fury doesn't want it next, might just be a ruse to strengthen his negotiating position and try to secure the fight in the UK or maybe he just realised he isn't close to 100% yet and wants more time and more fights in the interim before fighting Wilder again. Either way it's in Wilder's interest to make the fight next and that might means conceding location to Fury.

    But if Fury can't be persuaded to fight Wilder even in the UK then I can't really blame Wilder for that. Wilder then needs to make a serious effort to come to terms with Joshua, though I suspect if that doesn't happen by Hearn's time frame to begin promoting the April date then it will have to be for a later date in 2019 as Hearn will want plenty of time to promote the fight.
     
  6. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Wilder has the belt, he kept the belt through what is felt by many as a questionable decision,
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    the rematch with Fury is to occur then why would Wilder seek to fight outside of where a decision has gone in his favour?

    In my opinion there were no losers in the fight only winners, Fury has been fast tracked back to the upper echelons (a step up from his previous bout beating Francesco Pianeta ranked 138 or some such in the world).

    Likewise Wilders profile this side of the big pond has grown greatly, putting the supposed lineal champion on the deck twice.

    So if rematch happens no duck involved, if you are the challenger it is up to you to wrest the crown from the champs head, even in the champs backyard and against all hurdles put in your way.
     
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  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Stephanie isnt interested in answering the questions on the threads she chooses to post on. Instead she chooses to turn the question into something else which takes any questions away from Wilder. She could be Shelly Finkels great great great Grand daughter she certainly has the knack for spin and lies.
     
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    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kernow Warrior, So using that logic do you think Wilder should have to fight Joshua in the UK as Joshua is the Champion with 3 belts
     
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    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    No not have to, but if you want what the champ has namely the belt then yes possibly, as the champ you logically would stack odds in their favour that is something champions have done throughout boxing history.

    With regard to AJ vs Wilder the likely bigger money fight would indeed be in the UK, AJs bouts are attracting in the stadium itself crowd numbers not seen for many generations, add in the obvious PPV and UK with AJ is the cash machine.

    The champ has the bargaining tool, the belt.
     
  10. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's no money for the Fury fight in the UK. Has to be in the US
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course it's a duck. Wilder knows he wouldn't get preferential treatment on the scorecards and there's no way he could KO Fury. He's getting up like the Undertaker time and time again.
     
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    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Fury won the first fight but how do they get the same payday in the UK?
     
  13. ButeTheBeast

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    Fury's not an idiot. He knows that the most money by far is in America.

    That's what makes AJ's stance about only fighting in the UK puzzling.
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

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    That British judge certainly helped him didn’t it? Unfortunately those 2 American judges scored against him...oh wait there were no American judges you say...well that’s ironic
     
  15. Wasteman

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    IMO yes but I'm sure his fans will be able to invent no less than a hundred reasons why we should all think no less of Wilder if he doesn't have the balls to do what Fury did and travel to a foreign country, fight Infront of a crowd wherein the majority is rooting against you and still pull off the upset (even if it's not official.)

    Morover, whilst we're on the topic of Wilder, I don't see 10 new threads being made every day in an effort to persuade fans that other boxers who recently drew or lost in their respective fights did in fact actually win and that's because the people posting these threads don't really believe their own BS.

    That said, Wilder's fights truly make for nail biting viewing and I appreciate what he brings to the ring. I hope that he will prove me wrong by travelling to the UK to face Fury in a rematch.
     
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