Has Donnie Nietes done enough to be mentioned alongside Ricardo Lopez, Chocolatito, Calderon?

Even TBE Moonsri?

 

Yes, considering his last two opponents were 2-9-1 and 12-1.

 

Lol just no. Not a single person on Iokas record is better than Demarco, Maidana or Porter. The best ones are maybe Litzau level, in fact probably not as good as Malignagi.

The talent pool at those weights is a joke. 23-1 lol. Who is Ioka's best win? Then look at his record and the bum records they're fighting.

 

We know why those guys are 11-1. Loma is a 400 fight undefeated best amateur ever for a start.

Point is, if you look at their records, they have been fighting bums. Bum of the month club up there.

 

Akira Yaegaehi is better than everyone you mentioned - again YDKSAB south of lightweight, apparently.

 

The fact that this is the case proves my point. The talent pool is significantly smaller. Its basic maths. You take 1983 talents and pick the top 10, then take 213 and pick the top 10. The top 10 from the top 213 would barely crack top 100 of the top 10 from 1983.

You would have to seriously stand out at those weight classes to be considered p4p, either go up multiple weights, pass the eye test or just be that far ahead like Chocolatito, calderon and Lopez was. Nietes is probably top 10 p4p based on his accomplishments but tbh, based on the eye test, he's extremely beatable.

Put him up against a Flyweight Donaire and I think he would get wrecked.

 

hahahahaahaha a 27-6 guy whos last fights are with a 16-5, 15-19 or how about is 1-11 opponent, is better than everyone I listed, ok.

You're coocoo and clearly dont know anything about real boxing. A pseudointellectual boxing analyst.

Trying to be smarter than everyone by knowing about fighters people haven't heard of.

Lets speak facts. The talent pool at WW is about 9x bigger than straweight, 3x than flyweight. Apply some basic logic to that. Facts >>> your invalid opinion.

 

Nietes and Yaegashi are better than all three of them, and Broner lost to Maidana and Porter.

 

Ugh.

 

Notice how nobody agrees with you, @dangerousity ? You've lost this argument very badly, you are plainly outta your depth, and you are just making everyone cringe all the harder with pity for you with every further post. Quit while you're behind.

 

Yaegashi is a better win than maidana,reveco is a better win than demarco, porter yeah ill agree with you

Exactly. You would have to seriously standout to crack that top 10 you're referring to. How many lower weight fighters do we even have in the top 10 p4p right now? Its 3 and those 3 are the standout among the lower weights. You know who doesn't belong to the p4p right now? ****ing spence

4 of that 27-6 loss was against ioka,choco,guevarra,melindo. I don't need to say anything more for ioka, im sure you know choco, guevarra and melindo were high level contenders at the weight and ex champs. Guess what broner,demarco and porter fought bums too before they became champs.

You're ignorance of the lower weights hurts me. **** outta here

 

I couldn’t care less about who agrees with me or not. I go into a thread about tag little guys of course the crowd is gonna be against me. It’s the same **** with people thinking Jim Jeffries beats wlad or harry greb beats ggg. It’s illogical bs and anyone with a pair of eyes that knows real boxing without bias knows the truth.

Newsflash, just because you know more about these fighters and follow their careers more doesn’t mean they get any better than they actually are.

Given the talent pool size of straw vs welter, the rank 10 in WW would be equivalent achievement to rank 1 in straw, that’s the talent disparity.

Broner has fought 8+ current or former champs, in the most stacked divisions which is LW-WW.

The only true talents at those weights is nietes and Inoue. The rest you need to come up to FW to start seeing some real boxing talent.

 

Contenders in a very shallow division.

Being top 5 in those divisions is the equivalent of being top 20 WW. Sure it’s half decent fight but nothing to write home about for apparent great fighters. In fact guys like toner would get flack for fighting someone outside the top 10.

 

And what gets me is these guys can fight guys with records like 1-11 and get away with it, after becoming champ. Can you imagine if Crawford at any point fought a guy 1-11???

That’s - legacy points right there. Rather they don’t fight at all than fill their resume with crap like that.

 

Shallow or not those guys are considered great for their weights. Different standards for different weights. Why would you take some guys from the lower weights then compar them to your top whatever WW rankings.