Underrated Power on this forum ..

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    There are some fighters that are consistently under rated when it comes to their power on this forum. Two that I see this most often attributed to are Marvin Hagler and Joe Frazier. Both were murderous punchers .. Frazier was a small man fighting mostly bigger men and dominated most with his power .. Hagler was flat out a destructive puncher at middleweight. He crushed people .. no one flattens everyone every time but both these guys were big hitters that many here seem to categorize as above average at best .. I disagree.
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would add Marciano, even though it is a controversial point recently
     
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  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Possibly Jeffries and Wills.
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Other than Tyson and Lewis just about every fighter born after 1960.
     
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  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was NOT a murderous puncher. Far from it. Even he would be insulted being called that. He was a boxer-puncher with a little above ave power.
    FRAZIER WAS MURDEROUS
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't see either as, "murderous punchers",very good punchers, but not murderous.
    For me Frazier's great asset as a puncher was his ability to" fire and reload", instantly.
    Hagler was very accurate with his big shots, but not a pure puncher like Ketchel,Steele Hostak,Robinson.etc imo.
     
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  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler was a clinical, heavy-handed puncher. Sharp, accurate, hard, destructive by volume, but not consistently concussive.

    I always felt that Frazier carried cannons that he could unleash at any moment.
     
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  10. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone thinks of Hagler as the guy from the Hearns fight. But he almost never fought that way. He was a very cerebral fighter. When I first started watching tapes of him I was actually disappointed. I was expecting him to fight like Evander Holyfield.
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hagler didn`t stop as many of his world title challengers early like some bigger punchers down the years.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He was also harder to hit than Holy too.
     
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  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler has an 80% stoppage rate in World Title bouts.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I said early.
     
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