Rank These Records in Terms of Breakability

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Basically, which record (from easiest to hardest) is easier to break? (At heavyweight)

    Joe Louis: 25 title defenses
    Joe Louis: 11 years 9 months title reign
    Rocky Marciano: 49-0
    Rocky Marciano: 88% KO ratio
    George Foreman: Oldest HW champ (45 years 10 months)
    Mike Tyson: Youngest HW champ (20 years 5 months old)
    Shannon Briggs: 37 first round knockouts
    Evander Holyfield: 4x champ
     
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  2. The Malibu Mauler

    The Malibu Mauler Lakers in 5 Full Member

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    Tyson and Foreman are probably the easiest ones, I'm almost sure someone's going to break those records at some point.

    After that I'm split between Holyfield and Louis' reign.

    88% ko ratio
    Briggs
    49-0
    25 defenses.
     
  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I feel bad for any 19 year old that wins the title, people gonna call him baby champ or something lol
     
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  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins broke George record, and the way heavyweights can fight late into their career, it will be broken no problem. He had 3 chances to break it.
    25 defenses? That will be hard as will 11 years.

    And 49-0.. I don't get that one and never did. What does it matter if a guy is 49-0.. He can become champ at 45-0 fighting terrible fighters and only need 5 defenses to break that? 88 percent? Not many recognize that. Sure it can happen but again opponents

    . Foreman will be broken. At that weight a powerful guy who never relied on speed could do that with all the titles.Tyson? I would say no in most cases, but with all the titles it can happen. Yes, 4 X titlist becomes easier. When Hearns won 4 and 5 titles in the same number weight classes it meant more. Now guys like Mikey Garcia get it without legendary fights. Duran and Hearns winning 4 in 1989 and 1987 was still a great accomplishment. Somehow it is easier now.. Too bad those harder records then are easier now.
     
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  5. PernellSweetPea

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    The Briggs one and Marciano one and Ko percentage all could happen fighting easy opponents.
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Strangely enough, I don't think oldest or youngest is that hard to break as it depends on who the opponent is. A puncher can do it.

    25 title defenses? Tough to beat, but Wlad was close.

    11 years, 9 months. A champion that wins the title and fights just once or twice a year could pass that. A rough one to break.

    49-0, yes this has been passed in other divisons.

    88% KO ratio, easily broken, especially if the champion retires early.

    37 first round KO's. How many journeyman, that can be broken too.

    4X champ, means he lost 4 times, I can see a guy being a 5x champ. He would need to be popular.

    Perhaps the best answer is wins by KO. The mark to beat is 72. I don't see any modern heavyweight champion having 72 fights so how is it going to be broken? All hail King Primo Carnera! You've got the toughest record to break.
     
  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I disagree with the general casualty you blow off records but this is hilarious

    All hail Primo Carnera, the GOAT, if only Moore became champ, then the record would really be unbeatable
     
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  8. Mendoza

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    Thanks, I was going for humor with some truth mixed in.
     
  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think the Briggs record is the easiest to beat, in fact I think it's not even his and Peter Maher has more. It's just if a big puncher wants to fight enough easy opponents, and go for the early KO.

    KO ratio is pretty meaningless IMO.

    Rocky Marciano's 49-0 is probably the hardest to beat, if you're talking about someone fighting the best, but if you feed a fighter a ton of bums, and they retired while never stepping up for some reason, it'd be easilly beatable.

    The 4x champ is just getting easier and easier to beat as the belts get more fractured.

    I actually think the age ones will be reasonably hard to beat. Tyson's much more so, as fighters tend to turn pro and get stepped up later now. Though if you count alphabet titles, again, much more beatable.

    Louis's records are the hardest ones to beat, if we are talking about lineal championships, multiple titles makes them easier to match, but still a hard record.
     
  10. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I dunno why, but I had no clue about that. I looked it up and he has 48-50 first round KOs attributed to his name??? Crazy

    COUGHdeontaywilderCOUGH

    Maybe I should've specified Lineal? Or even better, unified (though I don't want to drag that debate up again)
     
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  11. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But Wilder now has that half assed -1 on his record.
     
  12. janitor

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    Easiest to hardest, and factoring in recent trends in the sport:

    1. Briggs
    2. Marciano KO%
    3. Holyfield
    4. Foreman
    5. Tyson
    6. Marciano 49-0
    7. Louis longevity
    8. Louis defenses