Joe Louis vs modern giants: settling tbe debate.

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop with the common sense!
     
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  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not the same at all, Louis was dropped by Baer and Galento. He was also stunned badly by a light hitting Conn. You really want to claim he had a good chin?
     
  3. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Officially, no. In reality, yes.
     
  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    You think joe louis had a bad chin for getting dropped by an opponent who was 6'6 250 lbs and had an 82% ko ratio?

    Stop ducking Ali being dropped by cooper in 63 and taking bombs from Liston in 64 without going down. News flash: having more power doesnt automatically mean fighter A will drop the same opponent fighter B did just because fighter A hits harder.
     
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  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You still don't get it, Clay was developing still as an adult when he was dropped by Cooper. HW's tend to take a while to develop you know or has that gone straight over your head?

    The facts are Louis was flattened and got stopped on the way to his title fight.
     
  6. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    So Ali went from being glass jawed and a weakling in 63 when he fought Cooper and became fully developed and granite chinned in 64 when he fought Liston? Is that what youre sticking with?
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Talk to em Cobra!!
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Louis from the Schmeling fight was just 8 months older than Ali of the Cooper fight.
     
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  9. VVMM

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    Napoleon wasn't so short in his time.Otherwise the size matters but when i can see the old fat and short Daniel Cormier's wins in the UFC i start to think again these overrated things.
     
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  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What planet do you live on? Show me a left hook he took off Liston that was comparable to the one Cooper landed........
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The idiots on here don't seem to realise Liston didn't land his big shots on Ali like Cooper did.

    That's kindergarten type knowledge, I suppose some clowns need to go back to dumb dumb school.
     
  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Slight difference though, Ali got up and won the fight.......
     
  13. BCS8

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    Well lucky the debate was settled! This thread was a great success! :p

    I'm afraid that without a time machine this will never be settled. PM me if somebody has one :D
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So what about Wilder being less than 220 pounds in last two fights?
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Knocked out just twice, with fifteen years between them , both times by excellent punchers, the first took 12 rds to finally finish the job, the second 8 after connecting with a steady bombardment for several of the later rounds and he as an old man for the ring in the second fight.
    Louis dried out to get under 200lbs for the Conn fight he said getting into the ring he"felt like ****".
    Conn hit a bit harder than his record suggests stopping Bob Pastor was no mean feat.


    Not a chin akin to Chuvalo or McCall but definitely not as bad as you claim.
     
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