Fight of the Week #12: Leonard v. Hagler

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a great accomplishment, and to be honest his style was perfect to beat Hagler. Moving laterally and Marvin had no answer for that and ducking punches and having faster hands to counter and then move. Marvin had been inactive. One fight in two years and he looked very beatable in 1987. He was a guy who took a great punch and always put the pressure on. but Ray had his number and was faster. I give Ray credit, but to say this guys looks older. I can beat him now.
     
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  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SRL was certainly hurt in this fight. He even admits to be hurt in this fight a few times. One time, when I revisit this fight to score, I'll tell you which round (round 8 or 9 especially 9) stick out in my mind where SRL was clearly hurt. So I'm not sure where this talk of SRL never being hurt came from. Sure he wasn't on ____ street stumbling all around the ring, but he was unquestionably hurt.
     
  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See... there's still hope for you bud... I've always scored in for Hagler by a round. haha :)
     
  4. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1-SRL
    2-SRL
    3-SRL
    4-SRL
    5-SRL, very close, most have it other way but Ray won first 2:30 for me and MH power shots at end didn't make up for it
    6-SRL
    7-MH
    8-MH
    9-MH
    10-MH
    11- MH ,very close , MH lands 3 or 4 consecutive lefts to face of SRL but hard to see Steele in the way
    12- MH, very close, MH better shots

    114-114 Draw
    Notes: No doubt for me SRL holding a lot and even hitting while holding, over warned and I would be OK with point deducted or borderline call.. SRL won the fight by his movement
    A fight as close as this easily can be scored differently after watching it and scoring it over the years
     
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  5. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey Surf, thanks for posting a card (I'll need to soon), but I'm genuinely surprised you had SRL winning round 5. You even say so, and I'm still scratching my head a bit.
     
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  6. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya, I have it different .. Looking forward to seeing yours … But I hope we can agree that Marvin BLEW this fight. Coming out righty for 2 rounds big mistake as he needed to be fresh and fast to score his jab .. He slowed down quit a bit later in the fight and I feel he wins it if he wins some early rounds with the SRL way to much holding tactic
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Bump.
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I wish everyone would take the time to rewatch the fight. It's interesting how these fights don't always unfold the way we remember.
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Likewise! In light of the fact that so many people on this forum argue and debate who won and denigrate one fighter or the other, I would think they would want to put thier card where there mouth is. Here is hoping that some more have the gonads to post thier cards
     
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  10. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I will be - aiming to view it within the next couple of days.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    More than that, I'd really like to see their new cards, not the cards that reflect how they think they remember the fight from the last time they watched it years ago. Better than nothing though.
     
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  12. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've watched this fight quite a few times. In watching it again...

    1 - Even
    2 - Leonard
    3 - Hagler
    4 - Leonard
    5 - Hagler
    6 - Leonard
    7 - Hagler
    8 - Hagler
    9 - Hagler
    10 - Hagler
    11 - Leonard
    12 - Hagler

    116 - 113 Hagler
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Alright hopefully we get some more scorecards in but this is likely the most participated FOTW yet...keep those cards coming

    Mid week returns:
    Hagler 4
    Leonard 1
    Draw 4

    Round by round with 9 scorecards
    1 Leonard 6-0-3
    2 Leonard 9-0-0
    3 Leonard 6-3-0
    4 Leonard 9-0-0
    5 Hagler 8-1-0
    6 Leonard 9-0-0
    7 Hagler 9-0-0
    8 Hagler 9-0-0
    9 Hagler 9-0-0
    10 Hagler 7-1-1
    11 Leonard 6-2-1
    12 Hagler 7-2-0

    Round by round 6-6-0 Draw

    @PhillyPhan69
    Hagler 115-113
    @Pat M
    Hagler 115-114
    @mrkoolkevin
    Draw 114-114
    @NoNeck
    Draw 114-114
    @JohnThomas1
    Leonard 116-113
    @PernellSweetPea
    Draw 114-114
    @surfinghb
    Draw 114-114
    @Unforgiven
    Hagler 117-113
    @Man_Machine
    Hagler 116-113

    Thanks to all who participated and discussed so far! Keep em coming!
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Curious how many of the people who just rescored the fight think it was a robbery.
     
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I’m gonna have to rewatch round 10 and 11. I’m questioning if I reported those backwards.
     
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