Power to the people ... or Hearn and Warren

Then I understand your frustration however your probably in a very small minority and the issue should be the amount of money you pay for your sky subscription as you don't watch it rather than the amount of money you pay for PPV which you do watch.

 

Why are you charging through the nose , isn't that a very short termist attitude towards the online advertising market ?

Or is it a case of that you want to make as much as you can before you retire ?

 

That's fair enough but I think you have to acknowledge you're very much in the minority here. A Sky package purely for standard Sky boxing looks like (and is) a disastrous rip off.

 

Yes. If people don't feel like they're getting value for money or worse are being ripped off, then that coupled with the many other problems the sport faces could cause real real problems further down the line.

I'll write a more in depth post later when I get a second.

 

Funny but in no way applicable.

Firstly I'm not especially concerned with the well beig of the market. If Hearn and Warren want to admit they don't care about the future of boxing in the same way then they can. Until then it can't be compared.

Secondly freelancers in any industry are paid way over the odds because they're far too often just covering for over paid idiot staffers who can't get the job done themselves.

 

These people defending PPV’s, making comparisons with the price of a pizza, saying it’s not much money...you’re incredibly out of touch with the real world. I don’t know your social context, perhaps you still live with your parents, maybe you don’t have kids and have plenty of disposable income, maybe you’ve just done well for yourselves but i’ll guess this...you’ve never been on the bones of your a**e because you simply don’t have working class values. If you had then you’d have more empathy for those who barely get by. You’d understand the value of £20, which might just be a bit of loose change in your pocket but it might be the difference between a boxing fan (who’s a parent) being able to buy their kid a new pair of school shoes or whatever.

 

Exactly mate.

I'll start paying for PPV enthusiastically when Sky and BT and their associated boxing interests start funding/sponsoring boxing academies or at least start donating some wedge to the amateur clubs with holes in their roofs or gloves with stuffing hanging out of which there are many. Rugby and football clubs have academies don't forget which take in talented kids from young and provide damn near everything they need save a bed.

 

I get what you’re saying but in all seriousness anyone who can’t afford their kids school shoes (and I know there are plenty out there) then they shouldn’t even consider spending £20 on boxing , a pizza or anything else non essential.

Not sure I’ve read too many people moaning about PPV’s because they can’t afford to pay for it , rather they don’t want to and of course no one wants to pay for stuff if they don’t have to, but it’s the same with everything these days.

Where does a fan of any sport (with a couple of exceptions) get access to them for nothing , they’re very few and far between these days.

I think eventually the well will run dry and PPV’s will disappear again , but boxing will go on and find it’s level revenue wise . Right now though it’s an endless money pit so it seems and those involved want the biggest slice of the pie they can get while they can .

As I understand it there are other ways to view these events if one really wants to .

 

6.66% of 66 million would be around 4.3 million.

400k is 0.6%.

You realise you can get sky ppvs without having a sky subscription? Plus, if you shop about you can get a sky subscription at a very reasonable price. I pay £27 / month for every channel. Granted if you pay full price (think it’s about £65) then your getting ripped off.

All due respect pal your massively and incorrectly stereotyping there.

Can’t get more working class than me and I disagree with everything you’ve said.

Brought up in a terraced. 7 of us. Mum was a cleaner. I now have 2 kids, house mortgage cars, and £20 is not a lot of money pal. I’m not even defending PPVs here. But it’s £20.

The facts are, the numbers for ppvs are good. They’re making big profits. So even if you don’t agree with them, how can you seriously expect them to just not charge £20? Oh and btw, I don’t buy ppvs anymore, so again I’m not defending them. It’s just common sense.


On a side note, every single business out there tries to extract as much money out of you as possible. Every single one. They are all at it. Airlines, supermarkets, clothes stores etc etc. Literally every business.

And if we are going to be shocked at what consumers spend there money on, how the **** did we let the sugar tax get through?

Think about it, they are TAXING US, to drink ****ing sugar lol. It’s clearly a shocking horrible money grab by the government preying on the obese or anyone addicted to sugar.

I have a feeling that our grandparents would have not allowed this tax to be passed through parliament. We’ve all gone soft.

 

I make it 0.61% mate now my eyes are working better - must have been trying to help Tony Hayers justify PPVs with my inaccurate reading.

 

Hmm you seem to be missing something. You're saying you don't pay for PPV's and pay a knock off Sky package, then say you haven't got a problem with PPV prices and have a pop at people that do. That's like me saying I nick half my food from tesco every week but I don't have a problem with their prices.

They're taxing sugar because diabetes costs the NHS more than any other disease and type 2, the most common is largely attributed to obesity which is largely attributed to excess calories (mainly carbs in the form of sugar) and a lack of exercise. Simplified but basically true. That's like saying they shouldn't tax smokers cos' they're addicted, nevermind all the health issues. Sugar in excess is poison, hence it gets taxed. In fact, it's probably healthier to eat Paleo and smoke a few ***s a day and exercise as opposed to lard-arsing around and eating donughts and guzzling coke.