Hearn makes fury offer

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by 2fast2fury, Jan 14, 2019.


  1. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fair comments but I personally believe it was promoted poorly.

    There was far more talk about the fight after the fight, there was very little anticipation because before the fight there were hardly any advertisements anywhere here in the UK, I saw virtually none whatsoever on social media.

    It was that 12th round when Fury got off the floor that people watched clips of on social media and YouTube, that clip was being watched by a lot of people.

    And the "debate" about the scoring, but again, more people wanted to see and talk about Fury getting off the floor.

    In reality, the punch output by both men was rather low, it wasn't a thrilling fight but it did have what many considered a thrilling moment.
     
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  2. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I'm afraid it is accurate. Fury and Wilder generated around £17.7m. Joshua generated significantly more for all of his fights since he fought Klitschko.

    I know you really, really want Tyson to be this major star destroying Joshua and Hearn at the box office. But he's not.
     
  3. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Give us a break down of your 17.7 million pounds Tony. Cheers.
     
  4. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    No, honestly, i’m just made up i’m a fan of boxing in an era where we have Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, Dillian Whyte and co, all British, all fighting in the same era. It’s you who gets aroused by the thought of AJ’s bank balance. You’re a strange little man.
     
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  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, I am not bias, for example I really enjoyed Wilder Vs Ortiz, that was very entertaining. I honestly don't remember being entertained or excited by Fury.

    That's not bias, it's my opinion, I was never a fan of Hopkins for example, he bored me, great fighter though but his fights never really entertained me.

    I am not going to sit here and pretend I'm some boxing snob, like I'm seeing something that the mere casual just can't appreciate.. I like being entertained, I like excitement and Fury doesn't provide that normally.

    Is Fury skilful? Yes absolutely, if Fury talented? Yes absolutely, Is Fury exciting? No, No he isn't.


    But yeah it's true, I wasn't excited for the Wilder Vs Fury fight and let's be honest here, it wasn't a great fight, it had an exciting moment, Fury getting off the floor in the 12th round.

    Apart from that moment in the 12th round, what else really happened? Not much really, it wasn't great, people got far too excited and went over the top about this fight, just like they did when Fury beat Wladimir.

    The punch stats tell the truth, it was just a average heavyweight fight with a moment that will be replayed.
     
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  6. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    BINGO! Hearn never said he'd made an offer.
    He offered Fury a deal when he came back. "Fury knows what he can make from this fight".
    Fury turned that down before his deal with FW.
     
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  7. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    He also said offers shouldn't be made public so I took it that he would share it with Kugan. Why couldn't he tell him when they stopped filming?
     
  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, they refuse point blank to listen, accept basic facts, they refuse to accept they were wrong and just repeat themselves.

    So I will use their own logic on them with their arguments.


    What else can I do? Or what should I do?

    Should I just sit here am doing accept the constant hypocrisy and double standards?
     
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  9. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    Hearn admitted that the Whyte offer wasn't a good offer. Perhaps "Stay Humble" is being greedy.
     
  10. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I was taking about America. Thought they did a good job with it to be fair. The promotion over here was just standard really. I rarely watch BT sports so I guess I wouldnt see much promotion.
     
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  11. BigStiffIdiot

    BigStiffIdiot Safer than Adam Smith's laptop password. Full Member

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    **** offer to Whyte so he turns it down. Offer to Wilder and Fury knowing they are both engaged. Means he has some bollocks to spin people with for when AJ fights Miller (a fight that no one wants to see).
     
  12. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    BT sport did a great job. Documentaries, good use od social media, cross promotion on their football shows, some well shot promos etc. They did some media buying too.
     
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  13. N17

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    I was saying if AJ had chosen to fight for Nigeria instead of GB then it's not out of the question he still could have been very successful here in the UK.

    Lewis represented Canada and still was reasonably successful.. but there are differences..

    AJ was born in Watford, lived in the UK all his life, has a "London" accent, people could and would have still related to him regardless who he represented on the Olympics.

    There was nobody else really around when AJ won his world title, Fury was in meltdown and had his own problems with the British public after his controversial comments and had "retired" by the time Joshua won his IBF title.

    There was a huge market to exploit and conquer and between AJ, Hearn and Sky they went at it and have done very well.

    As for Lewis, well, Bruno has to be calculated in to that conversation, Bruno was around at that time and he was established as the British publics "favourite", so there were other factors when calculating Lewis's popularity and pulling power with the British public.

    As petty as it sounds, the accent never helped Lewis, while Bruno had that deep funny laugh and London accent, many people couldn't decide if Lewis was British, American or Canadian. People never connected with Lewis like the did with Bruno.

    Something I believe Lewis himself never really understood, Lewis didn't understand why the British public continue to back, support and cheer for Bruno while he was here and champion.

    Also Lewis was really harsh on Bruno, Lewis said a lot of things that upset a lot of people, that never helped him with his popularity and image.
     
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  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    And where did you read of Fury's current standing in the UK market? He fought Wlad and Wilder overseas, and hasn't had any PPV of note in the UK.

    If anything, as far as the UK market is concerned, Dillian is more of a proven draw.

    Wilder v Fury went large unnoticed by the majority of the UK market, the typical punters that fill out the bulk of arena seats.

    Dillian on the other hand has filled plenty of seats domestically, arguably with some help from Chisora. But you'd rarely catch the very same punters attending a Browne, Chisora or Parker PPV without Dillian or AJ on the card.

    After that Browne KO from Whyte, the punters like the smoke Dillian brings. That's what the majority of punters pay money for, not the 'sweet science' per se.
     
  15. VicMcCoy

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    Glad it’s not just me. There was implication I felt that Hearn feels Fury would take the fight if formally offered.
     
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