Eddie Hearn losing the plot. FUMES over Wilder / Joshua / Fury situation

How can it be the "cold hard truth", if you "believe" it. It's not the truth its your opinion.

Why? they already know they can beat Whyte.

Who cares what his cutman thinks?

Okay, it will be easy for you to help me understand, tell me what it is i can't see?

Meanwhile i'll breakdown why your opinion is the minority on your original post.

Not fighting Whyte to instead fight AJ isn't remotely a "duck".

Fighting Fury instead of Whyte isn't remotely a duck. Fury is the far more difficult style match-up, the Fury fight will be a far bigger fight, and whyte doesn't bring any belts either.

AJ doesn't know he could beat Fury, no one knows, what he does know for a fact is that he could beat Whyte, while fighting recklessly.

We do know how good Dillian Whyte is, you're right and that is not very.

 

or it's just because he's friends with Chisora

 

Your opinion against mine, and yeah I am in the minority. Couldn't care less I say what I believe, won't follow the flock in this case.

When teams and fighters have options on the table they will take into account whether it is a winnable match up or not. And this analysis has already been done, and Miller and Fury were deemed as the lesser risk because they offer jack and **** in terms of reward over Whyte.

And the whole world knows it was supposed to be Whyte vs Joshua in April given Fury and Wilder were tied up.

So don't come here an insult the intelligence of this forum by ignoring the build up to the Whyte v Joshua rematch.

It was clear as day, and the MAJORITY of this forum were FIRM in their view that this would be the case.

Joshua suprise suprise was ringside COMMENTATING at the Chisora fight and talking about the next step for each fighter should they win.

And Sky and Matchroom have been playing this narrative since last year. And have brought it up in every official interview.

So don't act like your memory goes back 2 weeks because you are just blatantly disingenuous.

NOW, all of a sudden... the narrative has faded into obscurity and Whyte is no longer given his title shot and what he deserves and Miller is in the mix OUT OF NOWHERE, ahead of Whyte in line.

If you are ignoring these points, then don't waste my time. Dillian won the fight, did what he had to do, worked his way up... and was pretty much promised the April slot if Wilder and Fury were not available.

Stop acting BoxingABC1, you are terrible at it.

 

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Yeah, very possible, I want to make it clear I'm not saying AJ was crapping himself in that clip, he just didn't look like a man who was happy to get an "easy night" against Whyte.

And his actions and words afterwards didn't sound like a man who wanted to fight Whyte.

The offer to Whyte, if it is as bad as Whyte suggests then it's an offer that looks like he doesnt want to fight Whyte.


I'm not saying AJ is frightened of Whyte or is ducking him but there does seem a reluctance and if he goes and fights Miller then it's seriously questionable.

As some people may have noticed, I'm British, I like AJ, I like Hearn but I won't be buying this "Let's go fight Miller and make it big in the US" instead of fighting Whyte.

It's either, Wilder, Fury or Whyte, anything else is utter cobblers and should be questioned.

 

Or they’re playing the long game and are waiting for other reactions to other offers. If fury had turned around and said I want that offer Hearn has sent in and the fight was all go then the whole Whyte thing would be irrelevant, he would have missed his chance.

This whole Whyte thing is getting like Ortiz, being overhyped far too badly. I can gaurantee if AJ were to knock him out he’ll be back to being a useless bum.

At the end of the day, there’s been offers and they’ve been turned down.

 

AJ has more chance of fighting Muhammed Ali than that shithouse Deonkey Wilder. The Quack fest coming from the Wilder camp is real. Not a ****ing word from the Alabama shithouse cuz he has an indefensible position.

One face, one name, one champion, get the **** out of here you fraud. He deserves 35% max as he has 1 belt and a **** poor national, let alone international profile. In fact, 35% is being uber generous as it would still dwarf any payday he's had prior.

And Fury asking for 50% is just a complete **** take. He offers no belt and has never sold out a venue holding more than 20k in his entire career. Dillian Whyte is likely chatting **** aswell as he gets a kick out of taking the **** out of the hand that feeds him. That's the reality here. They all want a payday, not a career defining fight.

 

Going rate for Wlads routine defenses was 3-500.000. Mandatorys is of course always higher due to purse offer and such..Solis was no.1 mandatory for Vitali with a wealthy management. Vitali and his people had to dig Deep to get the rights to the fight...Understand?

 

The only example you gave was Wlad's worst defense out of endless fights. What top ten guy made that little?

 

I agree, it didn’t sound like he wanted to fight Whyte, but I think that’s only because he wants the guys that matter, I.e Wilder & Fury.

I don’t think it’s AJ who is telling Eddie what to offer either tbh, I think Hearn is the one who’s been making him look bad

 

I’m well aware it’s your opinion, but you’re saying it’s a fact and you see what everyone else doesn’t, so tell us then or stop saying it.

Do you have a copy of this analysis or have you invented it in your head like most of everything else you say?

I’m not ignoring that they were building-up to Whyte being next, and didn’t insinuate I am either. But that’s completely irrelevant to anything, so that’s fine.

I’m not acting like my memory is short, everyone is well aware AJ was commentating on the Whyte, but again, complete your irrelevant and has nothing to do with anything, because if AJ did fight Fury next, not one person (aside from you) would give a **** because it is far better opponent, far bigger fight and one everyone wants to see.

Again, no ones ignoring those points, but again they don’t matter. Still wouldn’t be a duck if he fought Fury next.

I’m not acting at all, and I don’t understand where that even came from. If anyone’s acting, it’s you, pretending as if Whyte is gods gift to boxing

 

Wlad only fought top Guys if they Were mandatory. Takam made 2 million dollars fighting AJ. Now name Me Any of wlad s routine defenses that made that much...

 

Do I have a copy of the team AJ analysis? Sure... it is right next to my copy of Lawyers taking on winnable cases as standard practise.

Sorry ABC if my critical thinking overtook yours on the highway.

I can just as well say you think Fury is gods gift to boxing!!!! God would never send a boxer to earth that can punch himself in a professional contest. That is like a navy seal accidently stabbing himself during combat operations

The Whyte v AJ rematch build up is about as relevant to this topic as relevancy can get.

So you are indeed acting as you conveniently chose not to bring it up until I reminded you. Your memory only really goes back two weeks.

It IS being ignored... when it was echoed enequivocally on these forums for Months!

Completely your opinion that Fury is the better fight. Whyte deserves it more and seeing as Fury has no belts.... again Whyte deserves it more.

And last I heard Chisora, AJ and the rest of this forum have already echoed that Whyte deserves a title shot more.

Fury is not any more dangerous than Whyte just because he beat Wilder, Wilder was weaker to begin with. Whyte brings proven value in the box office.

And if you want to talk about making up stuff, how about explaining where I have said Dillian is god's gift to boxing?

Last thread I authored on Whyte I unequivocally stated all of his flaws all of which happen to be the core attributes of a boxer.... hardly gods gift to boxing???

I challenge you to bring up any statement where I have alluded to Whyte being gods gift to boxing! I never said he walks through AJ or any other top contender.

Was your misplaced inference as a result of my Avatar? Hardly justification is it? Try again.

Whytes weakness is his technical ability to box... of which he has improved although AJ is head and shoulders above.

 

Eh?

He sparked Lucas Browne - who's only relevant win is vs Chagaev whilst he was PED'd up to the eyeballs and was taking medication going into the Whyte fight, and Chisora - who Tyson feather-fists Fury retired him. That's it.

Most notable thing he's done is knock down Parker twice (once legitimately), and had that fight lasted another 10 seconds or so he'd have been knocked out himself.

Don't make out he's been blasting out iron-jawed Heavyweights.

And staying with logic, you quote:

"AJ knows he can beat Fury, he doesn't know he can beat Whyte!.

Just take a minute to read that back will you? The 'cold-hard truth' is literally the exact opposite. He's never fought Fury so doesn't know ****, but he's fought Whyte in the pro's and banjoed him despite fighting recklessly.

For the record, Fury would toy with Whyte for 12 rounds. Whyte would be absolutely ****ed in the Championship rounds, even moreso than vs Parker in that 12th round.

Now stop talking bollocks.

 

What the hell are you talking about lawyers taking on winniable fights? You're talking about the analysis as if you're privy to it, so i want to see your evidence of the decision they made, that's not critical thinking, that's assuming.

But i haven't been going round talking about Fury the way you do Whyte, so you could say it, but it would be stupid....and Whyte punched himself in the face in the AJ fight, does it really matter?

It's not relevant in the slightest. Who cares hpw much it was built-up, that doesn't mean if he takes a better, bigger fight that he's ducking. come on, this is elementary, it really isn't that difficult to understand.

Why would I bring up the build-up? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. as i've explained to you a few times now. It's nothing to do with memory .

it's not my opinion that it's a bigger and better fight...it's the consensus, including Eddie Hearn.

That's not what i meant by god's gift. i meant you put him on this pedestal, that everyone is scared of Whyte.