Hearn makes fury offer

How can the lineal champion have a professional fight and it not be for the lineal championship?

 

He already did that with Pianeta and Seferi

 

You can't argue with FANboys, they will go to any extent to defend their fighter decisions

 

Just gotta take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

 

If the champion retires then he is no longer the champion, others have to earn it.

 

But the logic behind the lineal championship is a very straightforward one. It's the man who beat the man. That's it.

It wasn't introduced as a title fight because everyone knew it was a joke, but that doesn't alter the fact that if you claim Tyson is the lineal champion, that was a lineal title fight.

For what it's worth he may have come back but his ultimately false but repeated statements that he'd retired had to be taken at face value. I think it's fair to say that we're in a similar position to when Lewis retired and will be until Joshua loses to one of Wilder or Fury or he beats one of them.

 

Agreed. I do fear that the question wont be answered for a while yet. I hope I'm proved wrong.

 

Couldn't give a toss who's ranked as current number one. That's politics.

If they all retired today, Fury goes down as greater than both AJ and Wilder, which is more important.

 

No he doesn't. He may well be the more skilled boxer, but he never defended his titles and really has only fought 3 names in Chisora, Wlad and Wilder. That's not greatness in my opinion.

 

This is all apparently based on him beating the real Klitschko whilst Joshua beat the old Klitschko. It's all nonsense; the guy above would be going mental about how good Breazeale and Parker were if Fury beat them. Joshua's CV absolutely destroys the other two.

 

Do me a favour!

I never said it amassed to greatness! Fury has a lot more to do there. As do AJ and Wilder.

I said he would go down as greater than the other two. Surely you can't dispute this? Fury went to Germany and schooled the great Wladimir Klitschko who was deemed unbeatable at the time. AJ went life and death with the same guy 18 months later. Two great wins but Fury's is obviously better.

Fury went to America and beat a prime Wilder, being robbed by judges. Wilder was viewed as the most dangerous man in the division at the time. That's more impressive than anything AJ has done.

A win v a past prime Povetkin doesn't close the gap for AJ but it is a quality win.

Breazele, Takam, Parker are in the same bracket as Prime Chisora and Hammer whom Fury dealt with easily. None of those wins do much for anyone's legacy.

 

Parker who was beaten by Dillian Whyte and struggled badly with Hughie Fury? Take a day off Tony.

 

'Fury went to Germany and schooled the great Wladimir Klitschko who was deemed unbeatable.' Except for the three times beforehand that he'd been beaten.

 

Also, not sure how anyone could say Fury's win was 'clearly better' given it relies on Klitschko never having an off night and clearly always being the same. It's a bit like comparing Canelo or Pacquiao and Maidana v Floyd. Maidana pushed him all the way and a small number of people thought a draw might be fair. The other two were beaten easily. But we don't therefore say Maidana was better.

It would have been nice to see Tyson rematch Wlad, but he bottled it so the answer won't be known. All we do know is that he snuck home in his usual land six punches a round way in a fight that made listening to paint dry seem interesting, and his oddball fanboys insist it's a schooling and compare him to Ali. Weird.

 

Over a decade prior. Had also never been outboxed before or after Fury.