The new Boxrec algorithm is ridiculous

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  1. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua now over Usyk.
    Munguia now over Hurd.
    Spence Jr 7th PFP.

    It's a shame because the old algorithm was really good.
     
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  2. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think the worst bit about it is actually the fact they have Shawn Porter at 9th.

    I don't mind some of the division rankings. Look at heavyweight. It's pretty good and very close to what I would have had. What I really really don't understand...how is Chris Eubank Jr AHEAD of George Groves? That's insanity. You know the system isn't working when you see Eubank ahead of Groves, it makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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  3. Robney

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    Yep, kinda ridiculous.

    Gojira Inoue at #22 :dunno
    No, that wasn't even remotely good either. They frequently had to correct manually for ridiculous results if someone pulled an upset of some sorts and took so many points that he skyrocketed up the ranks. (remember Fury?!)
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What new algorithm?
    It has always had a faulty ranking system.

    Funny how some still seem so shocked by it.

    They have Eubank ahead of Groves because Eubank won his last fight, and Groves didn't.(And I think they put extra emphasis on KOs)
     
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  5. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    They re adjust it everytime there is little american fighters near the top of it
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I hate it that I now have the word algorithm in my life.:ohno
     
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  7. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Jeffrey Christopher Horn is also currently #6 middleweight.
     
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  8. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member banned Full Member

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    Look at who Joshua’s beaten compared to Usyk. I don’t see the problem with that. But yeah, the algorithms suck.
     
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  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    Yeh its always been a bit wonky
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, look at them, 2 old shot past it has beens for AJ, a laundry list of prime dangerous killers for Usyk..... there's a huge problem with that. Anthony Joshua is basically the 2016 version of Joe Smith Jr.
     
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  11. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member banned Full Member

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    Joshua’s resume is a country mile ahead of Usyks. Not even debatable.

    Joe Smith jr... what?
     
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  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've never taken boxrec's rankings very serious.
     
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  13. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    I was wondering why there were huge movements...
     
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  14. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Anthony Yarde is 8th best LHW

    :risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
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  15. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah they've long been making adjustments which some I can see how the logic comes in but really rely too heavily on people not being flawed at judging etc. It's interesting that a few of the "adjustments" over the years have always seemed to benefit Joshua quite well.

    One of the ones that seem to have happened is using the actual "won rounds" from each judge in each fight to deciding the weighting of a win/loss. When you have things like the insane score card in GGG vs Canelo #1 it will throw things quite a bit, and also makes a KO win difficult to measure on a similar metric. It really should just be win vs loss, it removes the "noise".
     
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