Hearn, Joshua, Wilder, Fury, White, Miller and this April 13th date

You can almost smell the desperation from Hearn as this April 13th date at Wembley grows ever closer.

After turning down an $80m 2 fight deal to fight Deontay Wilder, a 28 stone Tyson Fury stepped up to the plate for a fraction of the money and had the balls to make a big legacy fight on foreign soil.

Now Wilder and Fury are rightfully tied up by the WBC to make the rematch, where does that leave Hearn & Joshua?

Joshua must be fuming that Hearns greed has frozen him out of the elite heavyweight picture despite holding 4 belts, Fury will now despatch Klitchsko and Wilder, the 2 most significant victories in the heavyweight division in the past 10 years. If Fury beats Wilder again, can Joshua rely on Hearn to make what will be the only significant legacy defining fight left in the division or will greed come before legacy again for Hearn?

Which brings me to my point, how on earth can Hearn not make the Joshua v Whyte fight for April 13th? How can Hearn seriously justify low balling Whyte to such a degree that he is not interested in the April 13th date? Whyte has earnt his shot, especially with the Parker victory but once again Hearn is putting greed before legacy for Joshua.

Now we here that this embarrassing April 13th date may be cancelled for Joshua to go and fight Miller in America, a Jarrell Miller who has literally fought nobody of note, his only relevance is a deliberately staged phoney bust up in front of the camera's to try and gain publicity.

You can almost understand why the Wilder and Fury fights can't be made at this particular time but If Hearn now chooses the even easier route of Miller over the deserving Whyte then Hearn needs to understand that even the casual boxing fan is starting to see through his propaganda.

 

I dont even know where to start with how wrong every point in that post is!

 

Try from the start ham n egger

 

Why are fury and wilder tied up? Does fury have a contract with the wbc? He can’t turn it down? Most on the forum were saying Whyte was a bum and doesn’t deserve another shot, now he’s appsrently the most feared fighter ever and AJ is scared. People will swing the narrative whichever way they want to suit them.

 

Any chance you could tell us what all these lowball figures are. Do you know what Whyte has been offered? And cut the crap with the 50 million we all know that was a bull**** offer and that argument has been put to death.

 

Fury and Wilder are not gonna walk away from a rematch after a draw, they are gladiators with a moral obligation to put it all on the line again and resolve their legacy defining duel, on top of that they are likely to earn more from the rematch than taking the downside in a fight with Joshua. On top of that could you even trust Eddie Hearn to keep his word, he'd rather talk to a camera than actually pick up the phone to negotiate with Furys promoter Frank Warren, and Hearn has already turned down a guaranteed $80m for 2 fights with Wilder.

Are you even being serious about Whyte and Miller? In the past 3 years Whyte has fought Joshua, Parker, Helenius, Browne, Chisora x2, who has Miller fought? Has even fought a heavyweight in the top 20 rankings yet? Miller is a tubby fart snorkler with zero chance, who will be squashed like a rotten tomato by Joshua. If you think Miller is more deserving of a title shot than Whyte then you need to get a grip on reality.

 

Can you point out where I mentioned Miller ? And I didn’t say anything about Whyte not doing well. I said most oh here and frank warren for example said “oh AJ is fighting Whyte, pointless fight which he’ll win again”. Now AJ is scared or ducking Whyte apparently.

You’re seriously deluded if you think the rematch is worth more than an AJ fight. And trust Hearn? I assume you trust Warren who says any fight with Tyson is 50/50 but is happy to take 70/30 with wilder the first time and now 60/40 the second time.

 

Whyte and Hearn have both released interviews in the past 24 hours stating as much, even Hearn has confirmed he's low balled Whyte despite being his promoter for the past few years, try youtube.

$50m was the offer for Joshua but Hearn chose greed over legacy for Joshua and now a 28 stone Fury is eating up that legacy

 

No he said it was 2x Whytes highest purse.

 

Tell me barring Fury and Wilder, which fighters are more deserving of a shot at Joshua than Whyte?

Warren confirmed that the offer Hearn made to Fury was less than 60-40, so that must mean the offer made to Fury was 65-35 at best, 50-50 would be Warrens opening negotiation stance with a view to getting 60-40 at worst.

I've not seen any evidence of fury taking 30-70 from the 1st wilder fight? and 60-40 for the 2nd fight is a figure from the WBC if it goes to purse bids. A split between the 2 fighters will be agreed before then, remember both fighters stated that the 1st fight was the easiest negotiations of their careers, both fighters were more interested in legacy over greed

 

I have a feeling it's going to be Joshua vs Fury in April.

Hearn was quite coy about it all in his most recent iFL interview.

Obviously his ideal aim would be to take advantage of Fury's 3 fight deal with Warren and make the fight without splitting the revenues. Warren will be desperate to tie Fury down to a contract now.

Hearn has been incredibly positive about Fury in his most recently interviews. The implication was that he sees Fury and Joshua at a similar level in terms of ability - that's the first time I've heard him say that.

My prediction is that if Joshua vs Fury happens - Hearn will concentrate his commercial efforts on the winner. He's seen that Fury appeals to the public now and will look to capitalise on that. I think Fury has surprised Hearn this year and changed his mind on him - both as a fighter and as a commercial asset.

 

And what percent do you think that works out at considering an 80'000 sell out at Wembley and huge ppv numbers in England?

you only have to watch the hearn and whyte interviews in the past week to see they both know warren has low balled him, hearn even admits to needing to come back with a better offer

 

He offered fury a flat fee which is what he apparently asked for and then said 60/40 fury can have it if he wants it. Now tell me again, why did warren say any fury fight is 50/50 yet he didn’t get that the first time and isn’t getting it the second time? And you seriously believe 40% against Wilder is more than 40% against AJ as you stated before?

 

How was it a BS Offer. Why do you keep listening to Hearn for ? Remember when Hearn said there was a deadline of December 1st for Joshua’s April Fight

Barry Hearn basically admitted on his social media the offer was real. Eddie Hearn said in an IFL Interview back in May he recieved assurances from Al Haymon and checked to see if their money was their.

As for the Fisheyes BT Rubbish. A Man who saw the contract stated the UK TV Rights belonged to Sky PPV.
And let’s not forget Joshua’s Sky and Matchroom Contract expired after the Parker fight and was only signed and renewed in Late July

The $50M Offer came in May...
So legally Joshua could’ve fought on another promotion and network

 

you've not explained how that made it a 70-30 split, I've already explained that in the previous post that 50-50 would be warrens opening negotiation stance for Fury v Joshua with a view to accepting less. I don't believe that negotiations for wilder 2 will go to purse bid and end up 60/40 to wilder.

The financial improvement for wilder 2 comes from the ppv of the American market, didn't the first fight exceed 300k at $75?

How many do you think it will generate this time after a legacy defining fight like that? I think your talking about 500k this time maybe at a higher price.

Would Joshua v Fury even be ppv in America? especially with the time difference? on top of that the ppv will increase in the uk for wilder v fury too. Wilder and Fury are gonna rake in the cash from a rematch and deservedly so for putting it all on the line in name of 'legacy over greed' in the first fight. Meanwhile Eddie Hearn can line up fart snorkeler Jarrell Miller who's never fought a top 20 opponent in his career