This is the worst welterweight era in history

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Jan 20, 2019.


  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Whats the problem with Amir Khan? He could of took Brook, an easier fight for more money but he still has big ambitions, he still wants to be great and has chosen to face arguably the man of the division, in America, for less money cuz if he beats Crawford he rises to the top of the division and is a Champion. where as if he beat Brook he wouldnt. Whats wrong with that?
     
  2. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Worst WW era in history? No. Thurman, Crawford, Spence, Porter and Garcia would beat nearly all of Mayweathers cherry picked opponents.
     
  3. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He diesnt have one of the four belts. He has the WBA regular title, its a fake title, basically means hes number one contender to Keith Thurmans title.
     
  4. kirk

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    Meh... The quality of the division is good, they just need to be more active.
     
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    The highest most credible boxing fans can have Broner is 7th, and thats debatable hes that high.

    Youre making a pretty big statement about the quality of the division based on Pac beating a 7th place (at best) fighter.

    Another fighter you could have in the 7th spot, is Horn (which would push Broner to 8th) and he gave Pac a handful.

    Anyways...

    Claiming the division is poor based on anything involving this fight tonight is just pretty baseless, imo.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he’s still held in high regard. Watch ye interviews prior with other pro boxers and guys like Mikey Garcia saying this is not an easy fight, which is why he was only 2-1 underdog. There has been far worst odds.

    As for if it was any other fighter, quite the opposite. Broner looks good on any other fighters resume, maidana, porter, Garcia, but suddenly under pac’s It’s crap? Lol.

    We forgetting Pac is a 40yr old part time boxer full time senator coming off a loss to jeff ****in horn just 2 fights ago? You are seriously an idiot if you can even begin to criticise pac for taking this fight. And if you don’t think it was a good comeback fight.
     
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  7. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone feels cheated of $70
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    like Manny Pacquiao?
     
  9. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched it for free & feel cheated of my sleep!
    That utter moron Broner when the scores were being called saying "They can't cheat me this time" ....insane!
     
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  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Most people would say 1999 was stong.

    Their top welter then vs. now
    Tito/Oscar and Spence/Crawford are elite. Spence and Crawford obviously must continue to prove themselves

    Quartey and Thurman are at about the same level.

    James Page in 99 was worse than Shawn Porter

    Forrest>Pac

    Whitaker in 99 was worse than Danny Garcia

    Shane Mosley was probably better than Mikey Garcia

    It's competitive today.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Its not the best division , but its not the worst in history by any stretch. Pacman is cherry picking guys he knows he can beat. Broner was always made to order for Manny , even a 40 y/o version.

    This WW era has the potential to be a lot better but its unlikely. 4 guys at the top fighting everybody but each other never makes for a healthy division.
     
  12. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Hence the "nearly all".
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

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    What's wrong with it? If he loses his stock plummets to ZILCH, it's already pretty low after getting KOd so many times. The crawford fight is his big gamble.

    The problem is Amir khan if he were ti somehow win will just hold the belt hostage. He's a delusional diva who stilp thinks he's some sort of A side and will make any top welterweight move heaven and earth to makena fight happen with him. And you can bet your house if he becomes WBO champ that the brook fight will never happen because he'll use that as leverage and claim he doesn't deserve 50/50.

    Long story short, fighting crawford only benefits the fans in the short term. In the long term, we will suffer because of amir Khan's annoying delusions and grand standing.
     
  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    That's what makes it so horrible, you have all this talent and no one is fighting. Could you imagine the fab 4 era except Hagler, hearns, Duran, and leanard spent all their 20's arguing on twitter and fighting bums and we didnt see them fight until they were 32-35? You'd call it a big dissapointment.

    Here's the problem: you and i both know he'll never fight Thurman. And even if he wanted to, thurman is so fake, inconsistent, and injury prone it probably wouldn't happen. And what makes it worse is thurman still hasnt been stripped which means no unification bouts. Which proves my point: all these skilked fighters and no ****ing fights happening. What's the point?

    It's not just because of broner vs Pac. That's only part of my complaint, it just made me realize what kind of horrible shape this division is in.

    Broner vs pac was a PAY PER VIEW EVENT, not some undercard fight or a minor home town bout. Wether broner was ranked 7th or 6th or 1st is just semantics, the fact an underachieving clown like him and a 40 year old senator are 2 of the biggest ppv stars at 147 is sad and it's made worse by how horrible the actual fight was.

    I talked plenty about the state of the division in the rest of my post. All the top guys are ducking each other and holding their belts hostage.
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I never said broners resume or opposition has been bad. All those guys you listed in bold? Yeah, he LOST to them. That's the problem. People hold broner's potential in high regard, not what he's actually doing or accomplished.

    I'm not cirticizing pac for taking this fight that was never the point if this thread. The point is an old ass 40 year old Pac coming off a loss to horn and beating a journeyman mathyse is still the biggest name in the division and his fight with broner was a ppv event. It was horrible and the worst part, broners name and stock mean absolutely nothing, no big fights can be made with him in the near future. Pac will either rematch mayweather (which will be a snooze fest if it happens) or he'll fight a bum then give up the belt and retire, he wont face any top welters like spence and crawford and you know it.

    In other words, Pac vs broner was a lose/lose situation for the 147 fans no matter who won or lost.