World champs that were nothing but weight bullies

That's insane.

 

I guess you could throw some legitimate shade towards some of the Eastern lower weight guys of the 80's or there abouts... A lot of fighters "drying out" significantly before a bout so they would have a serious advantage in size and strength fight night. Became pretty systematic in some countries.

 

Jake lamotta. Miguel Cotto. Arturo Gatti. Chavez Jr. Hatton Margarito

 

Thanks.

 

Exactly. There was a thread once where someone was saying Hearns was only successful because he was so tall and it gave him an unfair advantage. Nonsense. Any advantage Tommy gained in height and reach would be tempered by having to stretch 147 or 154lbs over that huge frame which would mean he would be at a significant strength disadvantage and especially vulnerable to body shots that a more compactly built fighter might be able to shake off. It's why there are weight divisions not height divisions.

 

Jarrett Hurd is abnormally big for a light middle.

 

I have an even simpler approach. Have the fighters weigh in at 11 a.m. on the day of the fight.

I have an even simpler solution. Have the fighters weigh in just once at 11 a.m. on the day of the fight. I guess nobody has ever thought of this?! The original point of weight divisions was to insure some type of parity between the fighters -- to provide a fair standard by which to judge them. The more time that transpires between the weigh-in and the fight, the less parity we can expect after they touch gloves in the ring.

But of course, the point today is not parity in competition is it?

 

BIGGER Men fighting down, gaining strength, Height & Reach advantages were in the Minority years ago, but Today it is the Norm with a hundred years to make weight before a fight!

 

Well, there's the conundrum but, if they could, they had a long, wide body with 147lbs spread thinly over it to feast on. Swings and roundabouts. Tommy sacrificed robust resilience while gaining reach and height advantages, His handspeed, with respect, has nothing to do with the price of plums in this thread. Perhaps one for a 'speed bullies' thread?

 

Sure, Hearns had a height advantage always at WW, but that means nothing if you don't have the skills. McCrory was the same height as Hearns, Breland was even slightly taller, but they weren't as effective as Hearns. I'm about the same height and weight as Hearns early in his career but that doesn't mean Pipino Cuevas wouldn't have beaten me to death probably.

 

McClellan was my immediate thought. If anyone could fit the bill, its him.

 

I'm inclined to agree particularly when you've been in a division for a long time. If you were struggling to make the weight over any sort of period of time you would get hammered at some stage from being weight drained.

 

It's one of the reasons some organisations have a maximum amount of weight that a fighter can gain between weigh in and fight night.

Example: two fighters fighting at lightweight - one fighter is 136 on fight night after weighing in on the limit the day before. The other fighter weighs in at 135 but is 150 on fight night. A 14 pound difference between the two fighters in the same weight class - that's why some organisations put the maximum weight gain in place.