Wilder v fury

This fight has to happen - lost interest in ‘clinical’ Joshua - he’s too polished & too staged (of course by Hearn) Tyson is the real crowd puller - a free spirit & the best value PPV In last decade. Met him once - an inspiration.

 

I think you need to give yourself a break.

 

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I love how both fights have been set up with next to no issues at all. They even had a fun build up (especially the Belfast weekend stuff) for the first fight without any diva demands about not entering the ring without permission etc.

 

Yeah but Eddie said on IFL they were both impossible to deal with.

 

AJ/Hearn are acting like Wilder, Fury and Whyte etc are trying to rob them when they make their demands. I think they are forgetting that its the fans who generate the money and its not coming from their pockets. AJ is not a solo musician - he needs a dance partner.

Business is business, most people understand that, but there is nothing wrong with 50/50 for AJ-fury/Wilder considering the size of the fight and the massive additional funds/interest that both bring to the table. Just do the deal and make it with a non disclosure clause, so nobody loses face.

I dont think a Wilder fight is feasible for the UK anymore anyway- not with the finance available in the states now.

 

I am an AJ fan, I’ve nothing against him
at all. His career progression has been text book by him and Matchroom. He lost me abit with the diva stuff like not wanting Wilder in the ring after Parker fight and then the $50m stuff, but that’s not the end of the world.

It was Fury who I actually couldn’t stand prior to the comeback, but he won me over with his courage in taking the Wilder fight etc.

I’m not AJs accountant, but I really don’t believe he’s making anywhere near £25m per fight- if he is good luck to him.

As for Wilder/Fury they probably both made not far of $10m their fight - you can
probably double that for the rematch. Hearn/AJ are going to have to offer 50/50 to get either fight as it stands- if they don’t they will lose the public, it’s that simple - even Tony Hayers and their other cheerleaders, won’t be able to mount a decent defence.

 

Im not particularly an AJ fanboy, but he is the draw here and brings the cash regardless of who he fights. Whether that be Fury, Wilder, Whyte or some nomark from Azerbaijan. Any fighter demanding 50-50 is taking the **** a bit and they should realise that without AJ on the other side of the ring, they will go back to making relative pennies.

The ones making most noise about all this is the genuine boxing nerds. The fanboys and casuals dont really care who he fights, and its them who stump up the ppv and stadium ticket cash.

FWIW, i think both Fury and Wilder beat AJ. They should snap up a 60-40 deal if offered and absolutely destroy Matchroom on the rematch clause fees should they win the first fight beforehand.

 

They need to see how well the rematch does first. Let's be honest Joshua has pretty much reached the market peak in the UK so unless a fight does well in America also they just won't share the pot and why would they? You're asking greedy business men to give up an extra 10-15m for no reason.

It's just not happening unless Wilder v Fury 2 builds on the previous fight or it totally bombs.

 

I think the offer from Matchroom of 60/40 is pretty fair at the moment for both Fury and Wilder. I don't think the rematch makes any difference to AJ. If Fury beats Wilder then the AJ Fury fight will never happen because Hearn and Warren will never ever do business together. If Wilder beats Fury (which is exactly what I think will happen) then I don't think Wilder would even accept a 50/50 offer as he blatently doesn't want anything to do with AJ.

 

I must say I'm starting to get a bit fed up with the whole circus. Joshua is actually my least favourite (such as it matters) of Wilder, Fury and AJ. I think I'd want to see Fury and Wilder beat AJ. But logic is almost being turned on its head here. A unified champion is in a position where people like Whyte scoff at the 'offer' of a fight totalling many millions. It's starting to be entirely the wrong way around. Challengers should be glad of the chance of fighting for the titles, and Joshua has more of them than anyone else. Anyone would think Joshua is the supplicant, and this is entirely the wrong way round. It's wrong the Joshua has to go running towards people and caving into demands that don't reflect his position as a unified belt holder.

 

Fury doesn't appear to be tied down to any long-term contract with Warren. He signed a three fight deal at the time, has been promoted by different promoters throughout his career, has fought on Sky Box Office at a time when doing that meant some sort of deal with Hearn, and has very much forged his own path career-wise.

I'd not cite Warren as a massive factor in why the fight would never happen. Calzaghe walked away, Hatton walked away, Brook walked away, Khan walked away....

 

Can you imagine if Fury walked away from FW. I think Frank would probably jump off a bridge! My guess would be that Fury will lose to Wilder in the rematch and Fury will then retire. I do hope I'm wrong and Fury does win and leave FW because that would be a mega fight and we can finally see who the best heavyweight in the world is.