Is Anthony Joshua the HW Bogeyman?

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  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of the most unbiased Boxing media channels and he raises some valid points.

    Everybody previously was falling over themselves to fight the "money men" in Canelo, Mayweather and De la Hoya and when it comes to MMA its Mcgregor.

    Yet matchroom are offering by far the biggest career paydays to fighters such as Wilder, Fury and Whyte but some of these guys aren't even interested in negotiating.

    Never before has a "money man" in boxing been ducked, normally they called out by everyone.
     
  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    lol im an aj fan but no way is he the boogeyman
     
  3. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    No, he isn't. He was hurt several times before, his opponents showed he is vulnerable (Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, in the amateurs) and he is lacking some fundamentals like head movement and footwork. Furthermore he is the three belt champ and can sell out a football stadium with 90k specatators. Everyone wants to fight him because of the biggest payday in their career but obviously AJ/Matchroom isn't interested in fighting the elite as he could lose (his belts) and then would have to rebuild his profile. He is the biggest cashcow in boxing right now apart from Clenelo.

    A bogeyman is typically a very skilled guy with bad promotion who brings nothing to the table than a high risk so he is avoided.
     
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  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That'ts what I am getting at, he's a new type of bogeyman. The likes Wilder aren't even interested in fighting AJ for offers of over double career high paydays. Fury not interested in fighting AJ for more belts and more money than Wilder fight offers.
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    If, as you rightly point out, the money men fighters are usually inundated with boxers wanting to take them on, then something has to be different in AJ's case: either Matchroom are not making good enough offers to tempt or they don't want these match-ups as much as Hearn likes to suggest....
     
  6. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    1. Wilder made an offer for a fight in the US. Joshua/Matchroom doesn't want to fight in the US. The Wilder vs. Fury deal shows that it's not that hard to make a fight with Wilder.
    2. Hearn said Fury, Wilder, Miller and Whyte received offers. Strange that nobody accepted yet. Especially Whyte. This is a warning sign imo. I think they made really bad offers. Let's face the truth: Wilder is more dangerous than Joshua for Fury.
    3. Making an offer to Wilder and Fury and expecting them to agree immediately is naive. They fought and the result was a draw, i think a rematch is more realistic and everyone wants to see that. Including some kind of unfinished business for both (Wilder nearly knocked him out, Fury was robbed on the cards).
     
  7. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ isn’t a bogeyman. People just want to take advantage of what he brings to the table and that’s it. I don’t know how anybody is justifying Whyte turning down the money he did and the 60/40 for wilder and fury. Problem is it’s the popular thing to criticise everything the A-side does and we’re saying that now.
     
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  8. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So do you think 5 million is a bad offer for Whyte? If it’s a bad offer, his next fight should be on PPV and no questions should be asked? And why are fury and wilder asking for 50/50, is that fair aswell ?
     
  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I'd be amazed if Miller turned down 5m.
     
  10. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I don't think 5 Mio. are a bad offer for Whyte but i am not the guy who decides what is good and bad as Whyte has to accept and if he thinks he deserves more than that he isn't accepting and we don't have a fight. Easy. Turning down an offer doesn't mean the guys are afraid of Joshua and he is some kind of a bogeyman. It does mean either those fighters are deluded as **** turning down such good offers OR Matchroom trying to lowball their offers.

    Joshua has enough opponents for two or three years right now without fighting Fury, Wilder or Whyte who as mentioned turned down offers.

    Miller would probably fight Joshua for a cheeseburger (just joking, i like him and he is good, he can beat AJ). Pulev would easily step in collecting his paycheck. Both Kabayel and Schwarz are ranked Top 3 at the IBF / WBO. Usyk could also be a possibility. There are few other names i can see in the ring with AJ If Wilder/Whyte/Fury won't agree. Like Michael Hunter for example.
     
  11. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    He's not unbeatable but I can't see anyone who has the tools to beat him amongst the current crop.
     
  12. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s the best post I’ve seen you make and I agree with all of it. I don’t think any fighters are afraid of each other but the teams most definitely are. They have their product and want to protect it.
     
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  13. underwraps

    underwraps Active Member Full Member

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    Yep. Protecting their cash cows.
     
  14. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They’re all doing the same though?
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Really too many egos and the AJ Wilder was down to egos nothing more..

    I'm not even talking about Wilder but his management not wanting to deal with Hearn which was nothing to do with AJ.. I can grantee that fight would have taken place if both teams put their egos aside and nutted out a deal..
     
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