Teofimo KOs Loma.

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  1. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What a terrible troll attempt :

    Teofimo Lopez couldn't even KO Juan Pablo Sanchez.

    You must still be mad at Loma slaying boxing :lol:
     
  2. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wasnt referring to you specifically, just in general how a lot of people doubted Loma and picked against him to be proven very wrong!
     
  3. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Word.
     
  4. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Lopez would be a tougher fight for Loma right now than Linares, Russell Jr, and Pedraza were, due to his talent, size and power. It would be a dangerous fight.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Does he really have power? He couldn't stop Jorge Pablo Sanchez and nine others did, including the very feather fisted Jamel Herring, he couldn't stop Santibanez, yet Madiev did. Mason Menard is a glass cannon, great he stopped Diego Magdaleno, so what, 5 rounds after Turbo Terry. He stopped Silva when Verdejo couldn't, well we all know Felix had overrated power now, so that doesn't mean anything either. Lomachenko would do to him exactly what he did to Nicholas Walters take all of his assets away, take him to school, embarrass him, and make him quit on his stool like all that came before. But it is cute that you're putting your faith in a completely unproven commodity because your hatred of Lomachenko is so strong that it's blinding you to all logic and reason.:lol:
     
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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so you think all the other sensational kos are just coincidence? i mean, you can see how the fighters respond to his punches, i think his power is pretty obvious. im pretty sure he hits harder than anyone thats ever hit loma.
    i think loma could confuse him and stay away from his power enough to beat him, but he isnt styling on this big powerful 21yo cannon. i dont think teo is schooled enough to recognize, and be able to counter any adjustment loma makes, he will spend too much time looking for answers instead of scoring points. i need to see him really tested before i favor him over loma, he wasnt even really trying saturday. a fight vs easter or linares would tell me all i need to know.
     
  7. The Akbar One

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    It looks fearsome and impactful when he punches man. Definitely looks more impactful than Linares, and Pedraza when he lands.

    I didn't say Lopez would be the favorite right now, I said he would be a problem right now. And I base that on what I saw from Lomachenko against guys at lightweight.

    Cute? Faith? The guy touted as the best P4P fighter since Ali fights relatively weak opposition. So fans crave a step up in opposition level. Lopez would be that. Lomachenko would be wise to fight him sooner rather than later. You shouldn't be offended that people realize Lomachenko has been matched fairly soft for someone of his skill level. Fans want to see him actually challenged, and pushed. Why does that threaten you?
     
  8. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing to see here folks...just post-fight hyperbole is all.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Shh. I remember when Valdez was going to KO Loma. But then he went from one war to another, against guys he was supposed to murder.
     
  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not blinded by **** and I dont love Lomachenko. Everyone of those fighters you just insulted and insinuated that they dont even belong in a ring with Lopez -- they were all world champs. You just called Linares "overrated AF" so clearly your too stupid to realize the irony in you calling a fformer world champ and p4p skilled fighter overrated and Lopez not having ever even faced more than a corpse yet. Remind me again, who has he fought thats a legit top 10 in any weight class. Walters was a murderous puncher and could have easily and probably would have fought at LW had his soul not been taken. He was a world champion and was being talked about as a future p4p fighter and actually beat and knocked out live opponents who could punch and take punches. Pedraza, Linares again two more world champions who beat world class fighters and possess world class skill.

    The overrating of this kid is as bad as any ive ever seen. Get back to me when he shows he belongs in a championship level fight and proves himself a p4p fighter.

    I highly, HIGHLY doubt he lands anything close to significant on Lomachenko. He doesnt have the skills Linares has or the Foot and hand speed of Linares. You need elite offensive skills, a reach advantage, and blazing hand and Foot speed to be able to even be in the ballpark of landing a fight changing shot on this kid. I mean holy ****, Loma even has the FAR more proven chin between the two against the FAR better punchers. Why hasnt this overrated clown even been matched with a real live "puncher," as opposed to his tailor made opposition -- who some wouldnt even be classified as punchers in the cab driving community. Pump the brakes, or better yet, go "follow" another sport. WWE is probably more your thing as you actually seem dumb and gullible enough to believe its real.

    The fact this thread was even posted and Lopez voted for shows how stupid so many of these "fans" really are. Basically, the blueprint to being up the most elite prospects: keep them active and match them against different styles and if they have trouble with orthodox or southpows get them more experienced against them. Match them against proven fighters who have fought "someone" -- of course losing against that someone EVERYTIME because it makes their resume better just because they were another fighters opponent, but this gets the prospects name out there and thats good for business. Next step them up against good fighters who have skill but nowhere near the actual talent and physical ability/athleticism to actually provide any risk at all or make much of a fight. These good fighters are the tailor made opposition to order for Lopez. Dumb casuals see their boxed and through boxed they see they have fought other good fighters and may have even beaten some decent guys. So now casual goes full blown helmet buckled tight riding the short bus and licking windows like a world class ****** crazy because here is Teofimo Lopez KO'ing good opponents. What they never realized is that none ever had any elite qualities, were stylistically bad against Lopez, were KO's waiting to happen, and we're never gonna be in any position Lopez couldnt bail out of, with either his sapped, power, or skills. Ya, even though Menard and Magdaleno were good fighters and tough, they never held a single advantage, matter of fact were outgunned horrifically by Lopez in every quality, and none have come close to having the timing, accuracy, base, speed, and power needed to pull off the rarest of rates -- the one hitter quitter winning the fight off a punchers chance excwpt they nwver had a punch or a chance.

    So there it is, the promoters how to manual to make gullible idiots like you dump your parents 401k(youre probably unemployed) into pay per views and **** for this disrespectful loudmouth who hasnt even fought a top 10 opponent. But here you are definitively and factually claiming he'd ice a current top 3 p4p 3 weight world champ and making fun of the opponents hes faced, who are former champs. Ironic. Casual. He hasnt even got to the stage of being matched against opponents that arent that good, not even Magdalenos level, but actually have the power to hurt this kid.

    I'm not saying hes the next Vic Ortiz, but he reminds me a lot of him in that hes an absolute specimen in his weight class, has skills and speed too but is a murderous puncher. When you dont even have to put forth an effort at something and still dominate, unless you are incredibly driven like Loma, I'm all but sure you will not handle adversity well and fold the instant things don't go your way.
     
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  11. thesmokingm

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    Lmao wall of text. Pedraza just ducked Lopez and for good reason.
     
  12. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He gives bumlachenko a beating!!!!!!!!
     
  13. Paranoid Android

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    Lopez says he's going to 140 after this year. Said he is willing to fight Lomachenko now, but won't wait. Lightweight is a dead division without Mikey. 140 is tougher. I honestly don't think Lomachenko will fight Lopez.
     
  14. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, hes clearly gonna outgrow 135 soon but even at 140 I just dont think he could beat Loma? Even when he hits his prime. None of us will know how good he is in his prime until hes there, but hea got a lot working against hia development into an elite p4p level fighter. Just like apeed merchants, power merchants development is almost always badly stunted to the point these fighters rarely come close to fulfilling their potential. Their greatest strength, whether it's speed or power primarily, is usually just way too much for all but a few opponents in the world at any given time. So these guys steamroll practically everyone, even usually lower half top 10 guys in a division, but once they reach that select and special few, they never really got any better and if anything probably declined because the hype gets to their head. Because they destroyed all past opposition so badly they never really needed to improve, or make adjustments, or overcome adversity, and usually many turn out to be mentally weak because theyve never come close to actually challenged in one fight as a pro. Seriously look at a lot of formwr past prospects as highly touted as Lopez, and their track records are downright horrible in regards to developing into even 1/5 the fighter they could have become.
     
  15. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Aa much as I HATED his post fight actions last Saturday, I dont hate the kid I just really hated those actions, and I dont like the fact he already seems like a total sellout, willing to do anything, run his mouth and not back it up, and disrespecting proud fighters who chose to go to war and lwft on their shield with his post fight actions. Hes young and immature, I hope he matures someday ans believe he is a good kid deep down.

    But none of that matters if he fights Loma. Loma is gonna pressure him which he osnt accuatomed to, hes gonna control the diatance, the ring, and when and where their engagements take place, if he has to he will adapt to any problems he has with Lopez and make the adjustments, he will 100% figure this kid out and punch him all night long with perfectly timed and pinpoint accurate shots to body and head and he will do it with combinations too. Lopez has good hand speed, but not close to Loma in that dwpartment, his foot speed seems average to above average, this is where Loma really kills him -- here and footwork. Lomas feet are just so much faster and coupled with his footwork....... Man I cant see it ending well for Lopez. Loma also is way more experienced, fought against every conceivable style and type of fighter, I mean Lopez isnt some revolutionary and unique fighter, he brings nothing to the table Loma hasnt seen and figured out and consequently beaten multiple times. Loma also has a better base, better balance, much more fluid an athlete, far more technically and fundamentally superior, crafter, way higher IQ and ability to exploit his advantages, way more/better head and upper body movement, his defense is leagues better than Lopez, as far as we know you have to say his chin is better, trains and works harder than probably any fighter today and both he and his father's, actually his whole team are all total geniuses in the role they play and can gameplan and find a fighters weaknesses better than anyone. Ya Lopez is the superior specimen, but this iant horseracing, it's the acience known as boxing. Hitting without being hit. I really dont think Lopez comes within 6 inches of landing any somewhat decent shot on Loma. I think Loma is a flat out awful stylistic matchup for him and always will be.
     
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