I’m not saying overrated because I’m not sure he is, but highly rated. Sure he’s multiple weight champion but so is Broner. His best win is Broner. The odds are actually somewhat shifting in his favour vs Spence and when asked why, it’s because a great small fighter beats a good big fighter. The problem is, I’m not even sure if Mikey is better than Spence p4p, yet alone h2h with a large size advantage to Spence. So if he can’t even overcome the skills, how will he overcome the size? When was it that we decided he’s an elite fighter, capable of jumping up 2 weight divisions (he already fought at 140 so I actually only count it as 1). Was it when he beat Lopez? Easter, Broner?
Mikey Garcia gets a ton of free passes for reasons unknown... 40 year old Pacquiao just dominated Broner more than Mikey and Maidana did, but Pacquiao hasn't received anywhere close to the same credit. The odds against Spence have narrowed because of a combination of Mikey's confidence (fair play to him since he does sound really confident) and people realizing that Spence's best win is a badly damaged and weight-drained Brook.
The first time I heard about him was about 10 years ago, when he was sparring partner to Chris John for his second fight with Juarez. I heard he knocked John down in one of sparring sessions. I couldn't believe it at the first time I heard it since I heard it from someone with everybody in the camp were all tight-lipped about it , it's almost like gossip. But John himself once said that he is a great prospect and will be world champion in the future.
Im sure he can hang with the best, but he’s considered by a lot to be top 5 p4p. Usually a fighter has to prove that with competition though rather than simply via the eye test? One way of showing it even with poor competition is through dominance, I.e beating a guy much more convincingly than another perceived elite fighter. Spence kinda did that with Algieri, Crawford with Horn and he did best postol, Loma just dominates outright. But Mikey doesn’t really dominate that much? And his comp isn’t there either.
He dominated a guy Loma lost to Is his resume the deepest? No its just ok But he has elite.skills & never been close to beat
I think Mikey's resume is underrated. Concepcion Barros Salido JuanMa Lopez Martinez Burgos Zlaticanin Broner Lipinets Easter That's three unbeaten champs in his last four fights, plus a four weight champion. I don't think there are too many in boxing who can boast much better than that.
His pre-hiatus resume is actually pretty solid. He was quite dominant against some good fighters. But since then...meh. He is actually still one of my favs.. I dont know I just like him..but he looks he is slipping or a little less motivated. Still gotta give the guy some dues for jumping up and taking a body snatcher like Spence on.
I think he is overrated. He seem's to run through the divisions, but which TOP champ has he ever beat in any of them? He has NEVER beaten "the man" in any division he has been in. His "achievements" are all smoke & mirrors.
Salido has like 20 losses, I don’t think that really says much. That’s like saying those 14 guys must be all great cos they beat a guy Loma lost to. Aside from that argument, who has he really beat? To me the wins over Rigo, grj and linares are much more impressive. None of the fighters Mikey beat were ever held in as high regard as those 3, except for maybe broner who as I said is his best win.
Not really. His resume is quite impressive, but people seems tend to forget and overlook. Though not all of them are top class fighters, number of world champions he defeated is around tens. He beat Juanma, Salido, Martinez who were big players in featherweight / superfeatherweight division. He also steamrolled other young world ranked American prospect like Remillard and a world title contender like Concepcion. But if I were asked about the weakness of his resume, I'd say maybe his lack of intention to pursue of unification in the past. He didn't face Uchiyama, the WBA champion who was quite a heavy-hitter. And he was quite inactive during 2014-2016, only fight one bout which against Rojas, maybe due to his dispute with Top Rank.
There is a bit of that and it is a valid point. But it was the same with Cotto and no doubt he's going to the hall of fame. Anyway, hopefully the Spence fight ends the debate.
Maybe, but Cotto (other than not facing Golovkin) fought a ton of top fighters. Garcia seem's to be on a huge cash-grab because of his few years away from the sport.
I don't think he's anything special either. Being a multi-weight champion these days doesn't mean much when there's so many titles to pick and choose your way through the divisions. Even if you ignore his resume and just look at his actual ability he seems a solid enough fighter but nothing about him stands out as being special. If Spence is half the fighter his fans hope he is, he should deal with Garcia without too much difficulty.