Miller is just a kickboxer trying to be a boxer

I am flattered that you quoted my same post twice.

Cheers cha!

As I said earlier - if you read my post rather than, as I suspect, skimmed it - I am a fan of both AJ and Fury. That is Tyson, not Hughie, before you try and tag me to that in a failed comeback.

 

This is thee fight I wanted but just because I want to see miller exposed he is no where near AJ,Wilder fury and this will prove it.

 

Right, I'm not going to sit here and say he ain't but I'm not going to say he is..

Fury Vs Wilder II so neither of them are happening, Whyte clearly doesn't want the fight, AJ has already beat Povetkin, Parker, Breazeale, Takam..


Who is the next best Heavyweight? Who else can and who else should he fight?

Nobody is saying Miller is a world beater but he is about as good as it can get in the circumstances.

 

I said "Yes they were" to the comment saying those two were also kickboxers.


Your thread said Miller is a kickboxer and you were just told others were also.

 

This gets brought up every thread. Yet Cro Cop was legit, even at 40. He is still fighting and hasn't lost in MMA in a long long time.
And Miller went on to beat some solid fringe contenders.

That's like knocking on Donaire who lost to an absolute nobody early in his career.
Miller wasn´t a great kickboxer, and he wont be a great boxer, but he is clearly a better boxer than he was a kickboxer.

 

You've actually embarrassed yourself with this post, absolutely ridiculous.

 

To add to the list Ustinov had a reasonably successful kickboxing career as did Chris Algieri, Ale Povetkin and Marco Huck. Rungvisai and most Thai boxers would have started out learning 'Muay Thai' this is evident in Rungvisai's footwork. Matt Skelton also has a kickboxing background. George Groves was also a decent kickboxer before boxing.

 

Its Ortiz, these Wilder fans are obsessed with Luis Ortiz, nobody gave a **** about him before Wilder faced him but now they never shut up about him and they see him as the yard stick, Wilder beat him lets see Joshua have a go if he dares. Ive had many Wilder fans tell me Ortiz beats Wlad and Povetkin. Beating 2 old men is not as impressive as Wilder beating Ortiz they say.

 

My ability to read is working excellently, I read your entire post.

Your ability to respond is lacking, hence weak comeback.

 

Your response: NOPE............just like I figured.
I'll still take the bait.

Let's break this down:
1. IMO Nobody is better than Tyson Fury at HW. I agree with that completely. He's above everyone in terms of skillset.
2. I think it's hilarious you left stamina out (which I listed first) as Miller appears to have everyone in the division beat (point to someone who has more)
3. Show me proof that Wilder has better punch variety, and upper body movement than Miller (just one fight, point it out)
4. Show me Ortiz (who I think is underrated) has better punch variety or upper body movement (no real movement to speak of)
5. Joshua is as basic as they come, he is a purely conventional fighter, and he has no upper body movement, I'm confused.
6. I'm not even gonna dignify a response as far as Chisora.
7. Show me proof that Takam is in any way shape or form more elite than Miller has shown to date.
8. Show me proof that Whyte has better overall punch variety (his left hook is indeed better, that's it, and he lays his head on the right)
9. Point to anything Parker has done once his level of comp increased, Show me better punch variety, upper body movement, because it seems to have disappeared. (He was made to look ordinary by Hughie Fury and Fat Andy)

And by proof, I mean name specific (recent) fights.

I'm not saying he is better in every category than every single fighter mentioned, but there are most
assuredly advantages that he has compared to others and vice versa and to suggest otherwise
stinks of blatant bias against him.

 

I disagree, he was mediocre. Height and reach advantage plus some power carried him through. A novice like Spong already looks far superior.

 

It only seems weak given the level of opponent I am facing. Had it been a stronger prose replying to me, then my response would have been a few grades higher.

Nothing against you personally fella. Fun and games.