Joshua vs Miller June 1st MSG

Yeah two non Americans fighting in NY that will sell well !lol

 

I can't see why it wont be a decent fight,for all those calling for an AJ Whyte defence how many of them would be confident that Whyte would beat Miller? If Miller has a chin to go with his work rate this could be a tough defence for AJ.Three hundred plus pounds coming at you all night is no joke.

 

Every time someone mentions better options I naturally fall back on the question of 'who?' Who are the better options who Joshua hasn't already beaten and are available.

There are three answers to that question:

1. 'Whyte is a better option. It makes no sense to say he should only look for an opponent he's not fought yet.' That's probably the most logical one. Whyte has definitely done more than Miller to deserve the shot. But unfortunately, the image of an unconscious Whyte being flattened by Joshua, who has gone on to do something similar to everyone he's fought bar Parker who he beat without breaking sweat, is hard to shake. Has Whyte improved? Yes. Has Joshua? Yes. Has Whyte done anything to really suggest we'll get a different result? No.

2. 'They could have made Pulev or Ortiz if they weren't hanging around waiting and wasting everyone's time.' Maybe. But as I've said before, if you're aiming for a big fight and take your time trying to make it, but it doesn't happen, what can you do? If Joshua is in a position to choose an opponent as of last week, and Pulev and Ortiz aren't on the table, does he just wait even longer? No.

3. 'Miller is genuinely not as good as available heavyweights such as Hughie Fury and Dereck Chisora.' I don't buy this. Take Fury, Wilder, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte, Breazeale, Pulev and Ortiz out of the equation and I really think you're looking at Miller as best of the rest.

 

Miller would run Hughie out of the ring and be too strong for Del Boy at this stage,imo
.Pulev is 37 and avoided AJ earlier when offered the chance,he won't have gotten any better with age.
Ortiz is an old man and his main claim to fame is giving Wilder a competitive fight before being sparked out.
AJ has cleared out the"Old Guard"with the exception of Pulev, and Ortiz must make his move for the gold ring now before one of the young guns like Kownacki,Dubois,Joyce, Ajagba,Gorman, catch him out,as inevitably one of them will if he outstays his welcome. Hearn wants to showcase AJ in the US so his opponent will be an American,financial logic dictates that.
Who out of the US contenders is more credible as an opponent than Miller?

 

Wilder and fury are still available, that rematch hasn’t been agreed on yet, Hearn should’ve worked harder in getting one of those for AJ and put a spanner in the works

 

Also when AJ stops miller people will say well he hadn’t really beaten anyone anyway.

 

Well, he hasn't. Name his current top 10 wins. I'll put the kettle on...

 

I can’t! Miller is gash!

 

If Wilder's team do not even reply to e mails what more can he do ?
Wilder doesn't want AJ.
I believe Fury sees that he has an excellent chance of beating the American fraud,and that this will leave him in a commanding position around the negotiating table where he will be able to demand ,and more importantly get ,50-50.

 

Can't you say the same for Ortiz,Breazeale, Parker,Kownacki,Pulev,Povetkin ? And Wilder has only Ortiz's name on his belt

 

Ortiz would punch back, so he's not getting the fight. Wilder and Fury are also "high risk" so that's two more to count out.

 

But they aren't carrying on at their normal pace, both typically fight less frequently than AJ ,you are focusing on one anomaly which came about because Joshua was trying to get Wilder to grow a pair.
Wilder took what he perceived as an easy defence, which came back to bite him in the arse. a re-match between them makes sound sense.
Fury is a softer option than AJ for Wilder,Fury believes he was robbed in their previous fight and knows that if he wins the rematch he will really up his bargaining power for a unification fight against AJ.
You are being unrealistically harsh, heavyweight champs typically only defend twice a year and often that has been reduced to once, or they have not even defended in a 12 month.

 

No point in entering a debate with you, your comment rules out any prospect of intelligent discussion.Bye!

 

Risk is balanced against reward. If Ortiz had achieved breakout popularity, brought millions in PPV sales and demand for tickets, or held mandatory status then the equation would look very different.

See for example the equally, if not far more dangerous former AJ opponents, Wlad and Povetkin.

 

The standards were set a long time ago. I asked you for an example of when a recent heavyweight champion was fighting at your requested '3-5 times per year' rate.

You couldn't name one fighting at 5 times per year.

You couldn't name one fighting at 4 times per year.

You went back to two years, in the 1980's, to find a period where Mike Tyson was fighting at 3 times per year.

So the 'standard.' Who set it? Wilder? Klitschko? Lewis? Bowe? Holyfield? Tyson bar a two year gap?

 

Is this it now? Will AJ always fight in the US, or is it likely a one off and he’ll be back to the UK after?

Also, if it’s in June, BST puts us 6 hours ahead of NY, so that would mean a midnight fight would have to kick off at 6pm in NY. Can’t see that happening. Reckon it’ll be 3am over here.