Without PED would Evander Holyfield have been as successul in the heavyweight division as was?

Tyson has never seen 10% body fat in his entire career so your science is waay off.

And yes I have seen fighters just about reach their adult size very young, Tyson was one of them IMO.

This makes this all the more suspicious, at 17 Tyson weighed less than 200lb when he fought Tillman. In less than a year he had put on a good 20lb, for a person to do that who has just about done their growing is highly suspicious is it not?

And yes I went bald in a very short space of time, it happens trust me.

 

Does anyone think it was just the smaller heavyweights that were juicing?

 

People complain about Holyfield because he got caught out. He also went bald and had a strange illness.

 

The time of the Moorer loss always comes up. What exactly happened there? Didn't he say god healed him or something lol

 

Oh deary me, "He definitely took steroids because he went bald!"

You know how daft that sounds right?

 

You've turned this into a Tyson hate fest as usual, go back to it. Your obsession knows no bounds.

 

Why, did Tyson go bald you simpleton?

 

You are an absolute cancer in here Wass. I am surprised you haven't been perma banned. Your rudeness is only matched by your complete lack of cognitive ability. Unforgiven does himself a disservice by allowing you to tag team.

 

Well if he had heart problems they wouldn't have just disappeared overnight even with the help of the best doctors.

He suffered a shoulder injury which was mistaken for a heart problem.

 

Oh deary me, someone is upset I see. I don't need a partner to show you up for the arsehole you are.

 

Why would i be upset at you making a continual dickhead of yourself ? LOLOL!!!!!! You make it impossible for any decent conversation in here regarding Tyson and have ruined many a good thread. Don't get me wrong the nut huggers are almost as bad but you take things to another level. You've turned a Holyfield steroid thread into a complete Tyson hate fest.

 

The only folk making a fool of themselves are you and the other nuthuggers. It's clear as day it's another Tyson hard-on thread, putting his two massive defeats to Holyfield down to steroids. Anything to inflate the stardom of Mighty Mike.

 

Great post.

As per the bolded it's complicated.

While i totally agree he was a fighter seen in decline and i do believe he had been i also believe he enjoyed a renaissance of sorts. No he didn't go back to the best he'd ever been but he sure put forth some fantastic form. It's almost like finally facing Tyson lit that fire back up in him. Tyson was just not that easy to beat even in 96 regardless of what his fans say. He was still a dangerous man. After Tyson x 2 Holyfield pumped Moorer and then showed very respectable form against Lewis.

It's incredible that he still had that much left given the wars he'd been in.

 

So what are you saying? Better gear? Recovery from injury? More dedication to training or all of the above?

 

I'm not saying or implying anything more than i clearly stated. I'm certainly not talking about gear or injury. "Lit that fire back up" is my key take.