Kellerman Says Pac Is Top 10 ATG; Ranks Higher Than Floyd...

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  1. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Perhaps...touche'
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    pac is greater, in 20 years it wont even be a debate. right after their fight, the consensus was that floyd was better, i said as time passed pac would emerge higher on the atg rankings, i told pimp c this, he knows it. that shift has started and is continuing, and will continue as new boxing fans who werent around for the circus examine how it all went down, free of prejudice. and i will match my boxing analytical skills against any writer for the ring or any other publication.
     
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  3. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    They know the truth... they are just blinded/influenced by Pacquiao hatred.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's your point here?
     
  5. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao
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    Records
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    • Lineal Champion in 5 Weight Classes
    • 1 of only 3 boxers to win titles in 4 of the Original Weight Classes
    • Most Times Welterweight Champion (4)
    • Beat Most Champions in Boxing (23)
    • Fought Most Champions (29)
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    • WBC — 112, 130, 135, 154 (150)
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    Pacquiao >>>>>>>>>>>> Floyd

    FACT!!!
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I doubt it. Mayweather’s wins over Pac, Canelo, and Oscar will be more remembered than any Pac win.

    If Pac somehow pulls off a huge win at 147, that would even things up.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    im sure youre not alone. ive had to rely on time, not words, to prove how right i am... and im damn near batting 1000 on these predictions.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Boxers with name wins age well. Ray Leonard is probably overrated on most ATG lists and his resume consists of a handful of wins over well known greats and not a lot else.

    Mayweather has the name wins compared to Pac and also has great depth like Pac.
     
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  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    morales, barrera, jmm, and a handful of others are much better wins than a desiccated oscar, a prepubescent canelo, and a pac with only 1 stick.
    edit. sorry, the desiccated oscar was pacs win, which i didnt bother to name as a top win for manny. it was the retired pop star that floyd got to.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It’s cute how you name guys who beat Pac.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    im cute all around. care to discuss some boxing?
     
  12. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give me a rizla and I will see if I can separate their careers with it.
    It's literally that tight, I have my preference but iam not going to get involved in the argument that will never be settled.
    I just hope the enjoyment you got from watching both their careers will not be forgotten or lost in "the eternal argument".
     
  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    ATG? Yes

    Top 10? No
     
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  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, they are very close, i would put pac only a few places above floyd, but hes above none the less. context and circumstance matter. floyds backers claim when manny won the flyweight title, floyd was also around the same size at that age. perhaps, but that little floyd wasnt fighting the best men in the world at that weight, at that time. that matters. longevity also matters when looking at a fighters greatness. old man pac is still exposing hype jobs in his 40s, while floyd is fighting debutants and schoolboys. that matters. the stage in a fighters career when you fight him also matters, both have past prime and unfinished fighters on their resume, but only one guy needs those wins to compete with the other in the atg rankings.
     
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  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know what I saw. I don't care what Roach said, I know Floyd handpicked his whole career and Manny did not.. And most people here know it. Floyd would fight Manny, when he didn't fight Margarito? I don't buy it. His career is not that great.
     
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