Who had the better CAREER: Froch or Golovkin?!

Two things wrong with this statement : GGG never beat Canelo and Canelo isn't a proven drug cheat. Besides the question is who had the better career not who had the best win.

 

I don't know what the hell a 'G-Stan' is meant to be, but I simply call a spade a spade. People may not like that but it's not my problem.

Golovkin was the defending three crown champion when he and Canelo fought. There were no set purse splits and each side was free to negotiate the best possible deal for themselves. Jacobs was Golovkin's mandatory and there was a set 25% split. Jacobs was willing to turn down his title shot despite the fact that the fight was also in his hometown. Golovkin had to give him an extra 15% to get him to take it. Not anything against Danny, who I also like, he could see there weren't many good options available for triple G and used it smartly to his advantage. But you certainly have to respect Golovkin who agreed to give up 15% of his purse to force a top contender into the ring..

Canelo won the WBC title in November 2015 so you could say it's about 18 months. Semantics, pedantics and not the real point of the post. The real point was that Golovkin, again, conceded points that by rights he shouldn't have in order to get a top opponent into the ring.

You do know there has to be a serious offer/approach/discussion on the table for it to be 'refused' right?

Lara - Never had any genuine interest in a GGG bout or fighting at middleweight, as evidenced by the fact that he remains to make a move into the 160 division to date. No interest in anything other than chatting sh*t on Spanish language twitter (and I'm quite sure Triple G neither speaks Spanish nor follows him) in order to generate a few more followers. If you're really interested in the fight then there are such things as telephones and email. no? I had his fight with Canelo a draw, but don't have any problem with the decision because Lara was and is soooooo damn negative. From a selfish perspective I can't say I get excited about the prospect of watching him fight anyone.

Trout - I am not aware of any serious dialogue ever taking place between his camp and Golovkin's. He's another one who has never set foot in the middleweight division, which kind of tells against the idea that he had any serious intention of making a fight with the big dog in that weight class. Plus, to be blunt, who cares, he's a Vanes-style 'give it a good go' loser type against any decent competition, with one good win in a favourable style match up with Cotto. As he was against Canelo (no, I didn't have him winning).

Ward - let's not even go there with this one. This guy is known as loaded dice Ward for a reason, he wants the deck stacked in his favour in every conceivable way in every fight and has a long history of it. You could just as easily turn round and say Ward ducked a catchweight fight with Golovkin.

Derevyanchenko - Golovkin chose to fight the Canelo rematch instead. It was a one-or-the-other scenario. Do I really need to say any more?

Charlo - I'm not sure when this fight could ever have happened given that Charlo never fought at middleweight until September 2017 and GGG was basically busy with Canelo from that point until September 2018.

 

i think he might have meant stain.



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tru, nothing fishy there

by the time GGG became relevant Ward was moving up.

this is not true, he took vanes instead of Dev. There was a clear window in which to fight Dev, and G didnt.

true, Charlo was irrelevant for most of 3G's 2014-2018 reign.[/QUOTE]

 

Hahahaha

Thread closed really

 

tis closed 4 u son

 

oh to not live in the real world
what's it likely the lane of illusion
you sir have a problem and until you admit it your in denial
any thing else your in denial about
The land of make believe should have left your head years ago ***** boy

 

Last time I checked, Canelo's the undisputed Champ. Canelo popped GGG's cherry n beat him down Mexican Style just how GGG wanted it. But when push came to shove, GGG wanted none of that Mexican Style he talked and talked about. You talkin about the land o make believe but what you should be talking about is what happened to all that Mexican Style GGG wanted from Canelo and what happened when Canelo took the fight to the G man. Canelo made GGG's fighting spirit look like the land o make believe when he walked that boy down and took his heart and soul. GGG was so crushed after the defeat he left the ring cowardly with his head sunk low without even giving an interview. You probably still in denial about that too huh prolly blocked it out yo mind lmao.

 

Last time I checked
Your dad's your mum your mum's your dad
Oschers got utensils up his a55


Writing a letter to the public asking for the public to except his version of what happened in Vegas
Lmfao
What goes on in Vegas should stay in Vegas lol

 

except or accept ? grammar's not your strong suit apparently. you ain't the sharpest tool in the shed are ya boy.

 

Grammar police
Not Shakespeare far from it but predictive text and all
Sharp your self eh , oscher will be in the kitchen for you soon boy

 

I could see the fear in His eyes.!!!!

 

you far from shakespeare, you got that right.

 

You're not calling a spade a spade, in fact, your posts are full hyperbole and emotion. Hard to take it too serious.

Sure, I can respect G for paying Jacobs a little more. I mean G did need a ****ing name on his resume, it was pretty damn bland. I would respect G more had he given him the rematch, but I guess he moved on to bigger and better things in Canelo.

Canelo gave up even more money for GGG. When they first fought G was drawing 200K+ buys in PPVs, a mere 800K views on free HBO, and his biggest payday in the U.S. was 2.5 mil. yet he demanded 20 mil for Canelo. Canelo pretty much gave 10-15 mil of his purse to get G to fight him. Nothing but respect for Canelo for doing what it takes to get the best in the ring.

Imagine if G had his heart. G would have fought Lara, Trout, Jacobs, Ward, Saunders, Derevyenchenko, Charlo and Canelo. What an impressive resume that would have been. I don't fault him though, sometimes the fear of the uncertain makes us take the safe route as was the case with G.

Canelo fought for the MW WBC title at 155 in Nov. 2015 per Cotto's request. He defended the title at 155 in a voluntary defense in May 2016 at 155 per Khan's request. He fought for the WBO 154 title after that, and finally moved up to fight the very highly anticipated JCC-Canelo showdown in May 2017. The same year Canelo fought above 155 for the first time he fought G. Not sure what the fuss is about. G literally waited 16 months for his shot, boo f***ing hoo, he shouldn't have accepted the step aside money. G had NO ONE but himself and his advisors to blame for not having a shot at the WBC title.

Canelo has PROVEN to fight anyone.
GGG on the other hand has made excuse after excuse to avoid certain fights and in more than one case ignored fighters calling him out. That is a fact. I'd like to see how you will spin this.

Not really... GGG's camp straight up shot down any possibility for the Charlo match. Also, if the A side isn't acknowledging the challenger there is not much the challenger can do since he doesn't set the terms.
Here's an example.. Lara was challenging the A side in Canelo. Never sent a formal offer since he is the B side, but Canelo heard and accepted the challenge. Not sure why G and his team can't do that. Not sure why you say the B side needs to send an offer, boxing very rarely works that way. Fighters call out the A side or if the A side is the champion they call out the Champion and the A side will choose who he fights if he doesn't have an enforced mandatory, and draft up a contract or agree to sit down and discuss the terms. G wasn't willing to do that with Lara, Trout, Derevyenchenko, Ward. The only person he was been willing to negotiate with has been Canelo, and Jacobs who I'm sure thought was going to be an easy KO based off his performance with Pirog and Mora.

Golovkin has stated multiple times thoughoutbthe years, as early as 2012 and as recent as 2017 that he would fight anyone between 154-168.
Lara called out GGG in Dec. 2014, Aug. 2016, Jan. 2017, Sept. 2017, Nov. 2018 amongst other times. That's at least five times. GGG nor his camp ever entertained the idea despite Lara being a major player and within 154-168. Spin this bro.

Again, 154-168. Trout has also been calling GGG on multiple occasions, but not a peep from GGG or his camp. Wonder why. Read this interview where Trout sheds a bit of light on GGG refusing to acknowledge him or Lara and why he does it. get your head out of the sand and read it.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2016/0...has-been-calling-golovkin-out-for-a-year-now/

Don't lie to yourself. You think it was Ward who was refusing the fight? Don't be such a fan boy.

Ward isn't the fighter with the rep of avoiding fighters. He fights everyone, why would he avoid a smaller fighter in G.
GGG has refused to fight Canelo unless the oney was right, he refused to fight Derevyenchenko, refused to rematch Jacobs, refused to acknowledge Lara or Trout, but YOU think it was Ward who again fights anyone including GGG's big bro Kovalev twice, that was unwilling to fight GGG?? LOL Homie please, get real.
GGG also wanted a CW for Ward, yet wouldn't give Brook, Canelo, or Martirosyan a CW. Again, more G shenanigans.

LMAO!! NOpe! He chose Vanes Martirosyan and to be stripped of his IBF over Derevyenchenko. Get yer facts straight homie.

You're not that informed bro, and you probably don't watch much boxing news. It is well documented and on video that Gs camp has said on multiple occasions that they will not fight Charlo, reason, he isn't popular enough. They really said that, no BS.

Maybe your boy @LANCE99 can help you put a spin on this rebuttal, but it will be hard since my rebuttal can all be backed up by interviews, dates and videos.

Good luck to the two of you.

 

f*ck off you antagonizing *unt...

 

I wouldn't expect anything more from you Lance. You don't know how to debate, and very rarely do you engage in debate, because you always get your ass handed to you.