Hardest Puncher In Boxing History p4p - Julian Jackson

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No doubt he was a monster but it's very hard to top Fitz or Langford who flattened cruiserweights and heavyweights ..
     
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  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now this I definitely disagree with. Jackson wasn't going to take Mugabi's firepower cleanly for 3 or 4 rds. Or one or two rds to be honest. Mugabi proved more in his total war with Hagler than Jackson proved his entire career as far as mental toughness and chin. ( unfortunately the Hagler fight broke him mentally and pretty much ruined him) In a hypothetical fight between Mugabi and Jackson prime vs prime I can see Jackson winning because his power shots were short, compact and explosive, were Mugabi's power was generally the wound up type power. (Like Foreman) and the fighter that wins this one is the one most likely to land something serious 1st. And that would be Jackson. But Jackson never showed the physical toughness and chin Mugabi showed against the premier Middleweight in history in any fight. And he doesn't survive if Mugabi lands his bombs 1st.
     
  3. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Foreman. Dudes arm punches were more powerful than Jacksons bombs. LOL
     
  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think so at all. Hagler had not fought in one year since he fought Hearns, and he was uninspired and he didn't look good. He had an injury in training camp and the word was he was uninspired. In that fight Marvin's punches were looping a lot, and normally he had the them straighter and still he almost stopped Mugabi in round 6. It is easy to say one fight broken Mugabi, yet other fighters have lost numerous times and that did not happen. Fact is Marvin was not that fast in that fight in 1986 and John got his punches in against Marvin who looked so bad Ray Leonard picked him to fight, thinking he could go another year rusty.. Jackson is a much better fighter than Mugabi and his career is much better. And the fight with Hagler, John punched with shorter punches if you compare his fight with Hargrove. Remember this Jackson punched straight down the middle, John usually hooked his punches. The punches down the middle will land first, and Jackson was a better fighter. I see him landing on John and stopping him. if Duane Thomas did with a thumb. or Norris did with one punch. The same Norris who Jackson knocked out in two. The excuse Hagler wore him out sounds great, but if he was not strong enough to handle the one loss, I don't think he ever takes a Jackson punch. John fought in a crouch. Anyone with straight punches and quick enough cannot miss him. It is nice to say, he fought a great fight against Hagler, but he lost. And again Marvin looked bad in that fight. You can say John made him look bad but Marvin looked bad.
     
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  5. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Theirs a long history of boxers not being the same after a bad beating. Some fighters just respond to adversity better than others its just human nature. Mugabi like many other fighters (esp tremendous punchers like him) when that aura of invincibility is stripped away from them
    they become a different fighter. So generalizing what happened in other fighters careers is a mistake in my opinion. To me its pretty easy to see that Mugabi prior to Hagler was different than Mugabi post Hagler. D. Thomas don't beat Mugabi prior to Hagler, nor does T.Norris in my opinion. I said in my post prior to this one , I see Jackson winning a hypothetical fight with Mugabi because his punches were shorter and was more likely to land 1st. You basically regurgitated what I already wrote. And I will say this if Mccallum can spark Jackson out in the very prime of his career at Jackson's best fighting weight, You really don't believe that Mugabi, who hit a hellava lot harder than Mccallum could , wouldn't do the same if he landed 1st?
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Mugabi was blown away by NAorris who didn`t punch a hard as Jackson plus Julian punched harder than Hagler.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I meant pound for pound. It`s the manner in which Jackson`s opponents were left on te canvas, George clubbed his opponets to the ground with a number of punches, he wasn`t a one punch KO artist apart from against Moorer who had a weak chin and against Cooney, that was the most devastating power display by George despite being older and slower, those shots were hard.
     
  8. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I ask again: Jackson, Langford, FItz... or ANY fighter, how much weight would you have to add to the niggest bangers for them to hit exactly AVERAGE power for a modern day pro fighter?
    Not compared to an aberage man or even an average very fit man-I believe someone like JJ could likely hit harder than an average man of any weight.

    But what weight do you think- that would compare to what a typical pro boxer delivers?
    Like would did Jackson at 154 hit like an average pro at what, 185, 200, etc?
     
  9. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hi Mark, Roy Jones Jr is the GOAT. Have a great day.